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  • 24 fps FCP project

    Posted by Jeremy Pitard on May 27, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Hi Everybody

    I have RED 4K footage in 24fps (imported in half resolution with clipfinder) but the audio is in 25fps.

    When I synchronise with the clap… It works perfectly ! But… the inpoint in the viewer is… weird !!!

    I have never seen that before. Someone knows what does it mean ???

    Can I continue to prepare my editing in 24fps like that… or I have to do something before ?

    I want to avoid problems for the end !!!

    And sorry for my english… I’m french 😉

    Thanks Thanks Thanks

    Jeremy

    MAC OSX 10.5.8
    Two 2,26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon « Nehalem » processors
    8 GB memory (4x2GB)
    graphic card : two NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB
    eSATA card : SONNET TEMPO SATA E4P
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    FCP 7.0.3

    Jeremy Pitard replied 14 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Andrew Rendell

    May 27, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    It’s probably because the audio was imported while the FCP was in a 25fps project (FCP adds a frame rate tag when it imports which can cause the odd issue like this). Someone’s done a work around on Creative Cow before, called something like Fixing Assets (?) so you could search for that, or you could try creating a new project and making it 24fps using an Easy Setup and then re-importing the audio files.

  • Michael Griggs

    May 27, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Does it sound out of sync? Are you noticing lip sync issues? If not, you may not actually have a problem….

    The image that you have shared shows a linked clip (video+audio) that has different starting points. (Notice the top and bottom divided by a line, just like the sequence timeline.)

    If you un-linked your clip, moved the audio start point around, then re-linked the clip, you should see the same type of thing. Or, you could hold down the alt key while rolling or dragging the audio (or video) of a linked clip, and the video (or audio) would stay put….all while maintaining your linked-ness…

  • Matt Lyon

    May 27, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    [Andrew Rendell] “Someone’s done a work around on Creative Cow before,”

    It’s not a bug, it’s a feature! 🙂

    That’s probably my tutorial:
    https://library.creativecow.net/lyon_matt/fixing-fcp-assets/1

    But as Michael said, it’s only going to help if the audio is actually drifting out of sync. Although I think it’s always a good habit to always have your default sequence timebase matching the working project’s timebase. (which I discuss in the article)

    Hope this helps,

    Matt Lyon
    Editor
    Toronto

  • Jeremy Pitard

    May 28, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Hi everyboby
    Tanks to answer me so fast !!!

    A friend gave me the solution and it’s exactly what you said Andrew.
    My FCP project was in 25fps. And when I imported audio, FCP added a frame rate at 25 fps.
    So the solution is to change the frame rate : final cut pro / configuration simplifié (in french, I don’t know what’s the name in english) / choose 24fps instead of 25fps. And restart FCP. Simple no 😉
    I tested that and now when I import audio, FCP add a frame rate at 24fps 🙂
    Now I have to re-import the audio files and test the sync. I Will keep in touch for that !!!

    I read your tutorial Matt. Great job !!!
    And I am completely agree with you: “It’s always a good habit to always have your default sequence timebase matching the working project’s timebase.”
    That’s why I would fix the small problem before he becomes a big problem.

    And for your question Michael : does it sound out of sync ?
    The answer is yes and not. Let me explain !
    I put inpoint on the videoclap and on the audioclap. When I synchronise both, sometime video and audio matches and sometime not with a one frame shift (I hope my english is correct).
    And I don’t like that one frame shift 🙂

    Thanks a lot to spend time for me 🙂
    I love this website.

    Thanks Thanks Thanks

    Jeremy

    MAC OSX 10.5.8
    Two 2,26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon « Nehalem » processors
    8 GB memory (4x2GB)
    graphic card : two NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB
    eSATA card : SONNET TEMPO SATA E4P
    My Book Studio Edition II Western Digital 2x1To in RAID 0
    FCP 7.0.3

  • Jeremy Pitard

    June 29, 2011 at 10:18 am

    So… the story goes on !!!

    It didn’t work !!!
    In fact, it’s work with every audiofiles but not with the audiofiles I needed.

    When I imported audiofiles in my 24fps project… the audiofiles basetime didn’t change. They stayed in 25fps. I did many test without success.

    My post-production manager found the solution.

    The audiofiles basetime was locked inside metadata.
    So the only no destructive way was to modify the metadata audiofiles basetime.
    And he did it one by one (about 200 audiofiles… it’s a short movie).

    I synchronized all and now… everything’s fine 🙂
    I will edit at the date envisaged… next monday.
    A new adventure begins.

    Thanks for all 😉

    Jeremy
    https://www.chefmonteur.com

    Thanks Thanks Thanks

    Jeremy

    MAC OSX 10.5.8
    Two 2,26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon « Nehalem » processors
    8 GB memory (4x2GB)
    graphic card : two NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB
    eSATA card : SONNET TEMPO SATA E4P
    My Book Studio Edition II Western Digital 2x1To in RAID 0
    FCP 7.0.3

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