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  • Posted by D’arcy Maclean on December 18, 2006 at 4:14 pm

    Hello all,

    Thanks beforehand for your time. I am currently onlining a short shot on 16mm that was cut in 24 fps. The original film was transfered to DV 29.97. Looking at the master clips in the offline I am noticing that every 5th frame of time code is missing. As well all the clips are 24 fps as is the sequence. I am guessing the offline editor used cinema tools to reverse telecine the DV 29.97 but when I tried to do this it gave me clips that were 24 fps but the time code was consistent from 0 to 23 frames. As well I’m still getting the “blur” that comes from a 3:2 pulldown when a video frame consists of two fields that are from different film frames. I do have a small understanding of the 3:2 pulldown process but have little understanding of reversing this in Final Cut. An aquaintance has told me about frame offsetting but it has been awhile since he used it and can not remember the details as to how he made it work or where he set it. Could someone give me some guidance as to how I can batch dig and convert to 24 fps the original material properly so that I get rid of this frame blending.,

    Thanks again for your help,
    D’Arcy

    D’arcy Maclean replied 19 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    December 18, 2006 at 6:24 pm

    What’s the delivery? Are you actually going to reprint film or is the delivery some form of video? or what’s the total workflow involved here?

    Jerry

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  • D’arcy Maclean

    December 18, 2006 at 6:29 pm

    I believe the delivery will be DVD, however I wouldn’t be surprised if the director would also want it on DBeta or BetaSP for festivals.

    D’Arcy

  • Jerry Hofmann

    December 19, 2006 at 4:51 am

    I’d recaptue the material in 29.97 and if you must work in 23.98 remove the pulldown again. If it’s a short film you can still create very high quality DVD’s and on beta it’s going to need to be 29.97 anyway. The look will be much the same I’d suggest too.

    Jerry

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  • Ktrain

    December 20, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    I’m editing a short documentary shot in 24 fps Normal off the AG-DVX100. What is my best bet in capturing this material to FCP? Ultimately, I’m burning this to DVD and also submitting it to festivals – I want to achieve a “film look” for the movie, if not enhance the picture quality, when it is finally exported to DVD format.

    Also, I want to present his film in widescreen although it was shot in a 3:2 ratio.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    Thanks.

  • D’arcy Maclean

    December 20, 2006 at 10:50 pm

    Thanks guys,

    I’ve talked to the director about the issue and he wasn’t even sure why he cut it originally in 24 fps. Something about possibly shooting at 18 fps, having the telecine pull it to 29.97, and then diging it in at 24 fps via firewire from a camera was the only way that it looked right. He isn’t sure about the details because he did it quite a while ago. Either way he’s perfectly content with me cutting and outputting at 29.97 (phew). But out of curiosity, I tried to make a DVD from the 24 fps footage by exporting an m-peg 2 from final cut and importing it to DVD Studio Pro, but it still had interlacing problems. Considering what I’ve read about 24 fps being very good for DVD authoring I must have done something wrong. Are there any variables or settings I should be looking for?

    Cheers,
    D’Arcy

    P.S. I must say this forum is a godsend

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