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  • 23,976p AE render is missing frames!

    Posted by Todd Rogers on March 30, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    I’ve been searching the forum, but couldn’t find a solution to my problem. I shot DVfootage in 23,976p with a DVX100, edited 23,976p in Avid, and imported the Avid reference Quicktime into AE. For some reason I found fields (that was a whole problem on its own), so I let AE guess the 3:2 pulldown (lower fields/remove pulldown off) and applied Fieldskit Deinterlacer, setting 1 frame per frame, lower fields first.

    After I was done with all the effects, I rendered everything 23,976p with Animation Codec, but there are frames missing. I also tried uncompressed, but with the same results.
    Hope anyone can help me out.

    Todd Rogers replied 18 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • Jim Dodson

    March 31, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Is your composition frame rate set to 23.976?

    Jim Dodson

    8 Core Intel — Mac – OSX

  • Todd Rogers

    March 31, 2008 at 12:43 am

    yes it is.

  • Darby Edelen

    March 31, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    [Perry Leenhouts] “I shot DVfootage in 23,976p with a DVX100”

    The DVX100 introduces a pulldown in order to save the footage to tape at 29.97fps, the pulldown must be removed after capture. As I understand it, the DVX100 can use either a standard pulldown or the 24pA (advanced) pulldown depending on your settings. Regardless, you want to remove this pulldown before you do anything to the footage.

    Darby Edelen
    Designer
    Left Coast Digital
    Santa Cruz, CA

  • Kevin Camp

    March 31, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    and, unfortunately, what dave describes fits you description of missing frames after trying to remove the pulldown from 23.976 fps footage….

    if this is the case, you may be able to to go back to you nle and set the timeline or project to to 29.97 the export as 29.97 for ae. you won’t be able to remove the pulldown, but you won’t need to if you are only overlaying some graphics or color adjusting the footage… if you are effecting the footage by scaling, rotating, repositioning or any effects that may interfere with the integrity of the fields then you will need to go back and remove the pulldown, otherwise things will get messy.

    if you try the don’t-remove-the-pulldown method, you will need to render as 29.97, without fields or a pulldown (technically they are there, at least in the footage, any graphic portion will render 29.97 progressive). it’s not ideal, but it should work in a pinch….

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Todd Rogers

    April 1, 2008 at 1:36 am

    thanks for the suggestions, I’ll give them all a try, see what comes out best.

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