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  • 2.20:1 Aspect ratio for Features?

    Posted by Nick Bateman on January 25, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Hey all-
    first post here on the forum (reading all this has helped me out countless times)-
    finishing up a feature in FCP6 with Pro Ress 422 1920×1080 sequence, and I am looking at aspect ratios, I would like to use 2.20:1 because
    a. dont want to cut all my frames that tight for 2.35
    b. want a bit of a bigger feel that hopefully tricks the eye into being closer to 2.35- but can feel deeper and taller.
    c. its a lot of handheld, which I think will be more forgiving.

    I don’t see many films cropped that way, might have heard that the Red shoots 2.2 natively, but is it possible to apply any type of matte or filter in FCP to do this?
    Also, broadcast/theater standards can you still do 2.2?
    Thanks
    Nick.

    Jeff Greenberg replied 15 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Olin Padilla

    January 25, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    The wide screen filter isn’t going to work here. I would just copy the time line into a new sequence (with a 2.20 aspect ratio), and adjust the clips manually that way. Either way, you will be dealing with about the same render time.

  • Nick Bateman

    January 25, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    wouldnt that alter the footage?
    Also, I don’t think there is an option for a 2.2 timeline.
    (Sorry I don’t know too much about aspect ratios)
    Thanks again,
    Nick.

  • Olin Padilla

    January 25, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    There is no option for 2.20 in the time line, but you can do the math and use custom. 1920/2.2 = roughly 873. That means that you need to crop 207 vertical lines from your video.

    I recommended the copy/paste method because:

    A: copying/pasting WON’T alter your footage, and

    B: It will give you the option to re-frame up and down on a shot by shot basis.

  • Andrew Kimery

    January 26, 2011 at 3:23 am

    To see this on anything other than a computer you’ll have to conform it to SD, HD or digital cinema standards. My suggestion is keep working in a 1920×1080 timeline and drop two black slugs on your highest video tracks to use as a matte to create the aspect ratio you want. The footage can be re-framed as you see fit, the timeline still conforms to industry standards, and it’s very simple to adjust/remove the matte if need be.

    -Andrew

    3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
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  • Nick Bateman

    January 26, 2011 at 4:50 am

    So I would just keep it in the 1920×1080 ProRes Sequence (where it is 16:9) and just apply a top matte (custom). Therefore, it is exactly the same as a widescreen filter on 16.9 or if I had just kept the 16.9 as it was.
    So DVD/Theater/Festival Submissions is the same as exporting it 1920×1080?

  • Jeff Greenberg

    January 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    If you’re doing a film out? There are no standards. Film is commonly 1.85 or 2.35 to 1…but it’s also been 4:3, 3:1 and a bunch of other things.

    If you’re doing this from a video projector, you’ll have to mask it to give the illusion of such. The widescreen filter is just a mask anyways. It’ll be ‘projecting’ black, but should look decent – why not go test it?

    Best,

    Jeff G

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