2014, New Year Resolute: FORUM NAME CHANGE

[Andy Field]

there IS a FCP X techniques forum….so there’s no disrespect for FCP X users…perhaps a better name for this forum is simple NLE Debate….so people with different views can debate the pros and cons of all NLE’s

Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

[David Mathis]

In addition to Lounge X we could have a Club X, second one even has more zing to it. At least that is my opinion.

For some reason I love you X, you entice me, tease me, thrill me and never a disappointment. Adobe, on the other hand, leaves me frightened very much.

[James Culbertson]

“NLE debate” is good.

[Herb Sevush]

[Franz Bieberkopf] ” I’d be interested in hearing where Chris H., Walter S., David L., Herb, and Aindreas are finding the most valued participations, links, and digressions.”

This is still the most interesting forum for me. I drop in on the Legacy and PPro forums to see if anything’s broken, the CC or Not Forum when I want to feel superior to the band of madmen muttering to themselves, and the SAN forum when I want to feel stupid. I’m fine with the name of this forum as it is because it is the exact question I am pondering while legacy is rendering (which is fairly often.)Any forum title that contains the word “lounge” will draw no traffic. As for attracting women, my whole life is testimony to the fact that I have nothing intelligent to say on that subject.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Paul Neumann]

I would call the CC Debate Forum corollary to this one for sure with “when are they going to bring back perpetual licensing!” akin to “when are they going to bring back tracks!”. The CC Debate Forum is only like 8 months old. Not too different than how this one’s first year went. This one’s gotten much more interesting/informative over the years as I suppose that one will too.

[Mark Dobson]

I still like the title of this forum although I feel the heat went out of the stew a while back.

Originally, with the huge controversy over the lack of professional features in FCPX, it covered the debate of where to go from FCP7 and with a few exceptions it was really a Premiere Pro vs FCPX debate. But the CC subscription model really placed a fork on the road.

Maybe the title could be ‘ After 10.1, is FCPX finally a contender?’

[Daniel Frome]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “The forum generally suffers from a lack of new points of view (ie attracting new participants).”

I’m probably adding to this problem. Daily lurker, rarely a poster. I don’t use FCPX, yet I still visit this forum daily. I know exactly all the same people who are going to say that FCPX is awesome, those who will say it sucks, and those who will write witty banter poking fun at the whole thing. It’s my daily distraction when I’m sending something out to playback.

[Rich Rubasch]

I’m with Daniel. But I WANT to use it….I just need to feel that my investment in time and resources is well spent for the uncertain future.

Not there yet, according to this forum.

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
https://www.tiltmedia.com

[Richard Herd]

Here, I’m waiting for Aindreas to start his own blog.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “Forums live or die by their participants. Some change might expand the horizons.”

At the risk of yet another analogy, of which their usefulness was put in to question at some point on this forum, I am going to use an analogy, or really, an allegory.

Context is everything.

If there should be one true name and really the raison d’être for this forum, it is, The Death of Final Cut Studio 3.

A bit of a warning, this may get a bit morbid:

The death of FCS3 was similar to a sudden and unexpected death of a close friend. In these situations, you are left wondering why. Why did this happen? What was the root cause, and is there anything that I could have done to change the outcome?

You go to the funeral, and at first, you talk about the deceased. You remember and share in the way the deceased family needs to grieve following any cultural belief systems and frameworks.

Then, as more time passes, and the focus shifts away from the memorial, you get together and talk with people you haven’t seen a while, and then the conversations turn to what is happening in each other’s lives.

You ask how they’ve been, what they’ve been up to, you share stories, anecdotes, catch up, laugh, cry, and enjoy the time that is spent being in the same place with all of these people.

Perhaps you talk with people that you’ve never met, and come to find you had a mutual friend and you share stories.

But the reason we are there is because of the death of a friend. It is the context of all of these wonderful discussions you’ve been having. This group of people will never meet under the exact same circumstances again.

So, while we could change the name of the forum, we can’t change what happened and we certainly can’t change the reason why we are all here.

I enjoy the conversations about theory, art, networking, and all the other topics that come up form time to time. Sure, it is less conversation than what was before, but it’s still here. Certainly, a lot of us have moved on and are done grieving.

I also disagree with some of what you said. There have been new avatars and names. New view points and stories, new applications and uses.

Recently, I have also talked about new aspects of FCPX that I find that I don’t want to discuss in the Techniques forum even though I like and participate in the Techniques forum. The techniques forum is really starting to become what the Final Cut Pro Legend forum was (and still is), which is a place to find really insightful help and information about using (mostly) one piece of software.

I also think that having a discussion that is removed from the techniques with the smart and dissenting people that are in this forum helps ME to figure out what I want to do, or how I want to submit feedback to Apple about FCPX. And I hope, because I know there are some people paying attention, that some people will submit feedback as well. Right now, it is the only way I know of to make the software better.

I think that if we changed the name of the forum, we change the context, and I think the context of this forum is very important to this forum. We won’t be able to recreate these circumstances again.

That being said, I would encourage you to post more insights on theory, post more new points of view. Basically, start more discussions about the subjects you care about and make it more of what you want it to be.