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2010 Mac Pro benching yet?
Posted by Vladimir Kucherov on September 13, 2010 at 1:14 amI am probably going to have to upgrade my 2008 mac. I was just wondering what the performance is like on the new 2010 models? I probably can’t swing a 12 core computer, which I’m sure is going to be just awesome at running DaVinci. I was more wondering about the 8core and even the bottom of the line quad core Nehalem ones. Are those worth it or should I go find a refurb 2009 instead?
Has anyone given them a test spin?
Vladimir Kucherov replied 13 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 13 Replies -
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Mika Joon
September 13, 2010 at 1:52 amGreat question
What’s the difference in performance using Resolve with the different flavours of macro towers ranging from 2008 – 2010
How exactly will a 2010 macpro perform better
Let’s say side by side a 2009 and 2010 both equipped with the same 2 video cards ( gt 120 and gtx 285)
Both 2.93 ghz processing.
Better rendering?, more layers?,etcI already went ahead and sold my 2008 and will be getting my new 12 core next week, but I can’t help to think if this was really necessary. I know it will be a great improvement for CS5 but how will Resolve benefit from this.
Thanks in advance
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Peter Chamberlain
September 13, 2010 at 5:08 amResolve uses the NVidia CUDA GPU for image processing, but the CPUs are busy handling file I/O and the decompression/compression requirements of the difference codecs. If you work on r3d’s and don’t have a Rocket then the extra core or faster core help significantly deal with the debayer and decompression prior to handing the image data to the GPU.
2010 is a good choice over the 2008, but a similar spec 2009/2010 comparison will produce similar results.Peter
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Vladimir Kucherov
September 13, 2010 at 12:00 pmBut the system has to have at least 8 cores, it seems. I’m seeing benchmarks where the 2009 and 2010 quad core systems return slower than 2008 results. Does that sound about right?
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Darin Wooldridge
September 13, 2010 at 7:24 pmII’m in the process of getting the machines to do this exact test..
I am currently running a 2008 Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHzLooking forward to seeing how the latest and greatest mac will run the resolve and what unit is really needed to get the job done. My hope is to the the heavy lifting with my old 08 (build projects, base grade, set some looks,) then take the session to the big house, in the big theater, with the big clients who require real time performance in every situation. (hd stereo, 2k stereo, 4k, red, etc..)
If the increased performance is worth the price tag I will upgrading to my third mac pro.
2007 dual quad 3.0 loaded
2008 dual quad 2.88 loaded
Next ??Best,
Darin Wooldridge
colorist / technical strategist
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Vladimir Kucherov
September 13, 2010 at 8:08 pmSounds excellent! I’ll be looking forward to seeing your results.
I’m definitely waiting to install Resolve on my mac before deciding. Hell, even if I can get ~18fps playback it’ll feel realtime compared to Color.
Side question: if Resolve is playing at less than real time, can it still do sound playback?
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Joseph Owens
September 13, 2010 at 9:37 pm[Darin Wooldridge] “a 2008 Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz”etc, (except I’ve got 10GB of DDR2 memory) is exactly my most up-to-date machine, and it is not on the supported or recommended MacPro chassis list as published by BlackMagic. But this is what you’re doing your Beta testing with?
Can’t get enthusiastic about a half-fast system, so until there is convergence with asset write-down cycles and the Linux system, it would still seem to favour the latter as the long-term (LOL, at least in PC lifespan) most preferable configuration over the Apple offering. Having gone down this road once already, this is starting to have the feel of the $32,000 version of Final Touch — understanding yes, there are some very fundamental platform differences. Like maybe Resolve actually delivering on its performance specification (with all the approved customizations) would be very refreshing. However,
Apple will very soon have to show some initiative with their “professional” level of hardware, or it will become obvious that they have changed their business model and it is time to leave them to selling gadgets. Meanwhile there are other fish to fry, as they say.jPo
You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
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Luke Maslen
September 14, 2010 at 12:19 amHi Aless,
Faster and more CPU cores will mainly help when working with compressed files such as ProRes and DNxHD, or if you’re working with RED r3d files and don’t have a RED Rocket card.
I would not expect much difference between two generations of 8-Core systems at the same 2.93 Ghz speed. There might be some incremental speed benefits in the new machine but nothing major. However an upgrade from 8-Core to 12-Core should be a great benefit. We’re currently certifying mid-2010 Mac Pro computers and should have an updated guide in the next fortnight.
Regards,
Luke Maslen
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Darin Wooldridge
September 14, 2010 at 8:20 pmMr Owens,
Yes I’m testing on an old mac and yes it is not published as a supported or recommended box.
Is it working? Yes it is.. To its full potential? probably not. Can I get by with a little less performance. Yes. In my opinion even with slower performance of my old mac the tools compared to color / final touch are worth the upgrade.I use the resolve (linex) product daily at the office and had a huge interest in how this new mac version works pared with the linex version.
As this is my home system, a hobby really, i don’t want to purchase the latest and greatest until I really need it. I too have built several systems and wished I had waited. It’s part of our business. The list of equipment I have purchased to try / test something would spin your head. Maybe I should look into the cost of a good crystal ball. Anyway, this is how I adapt to change and to be honest I enjoy playing with latest toys / tools. If I had a spare 10k in the account the 12 core mac would be ordered today. Another 29k and I would have the panels. And all this to make my home videos look better and prepare for what ever comes my way. 🙂
Anyone in the market for a.
2007 dual quad core 3.0 mac pro
2008 dual quad core 2.8 mac pro
hp xw8300 with fx4500
2 media rtrx scsi u320 dual portBest
Darin Wooldridge
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Darin Wooldridge
September 14, 2010 at 9:46 pmThe audio is choppy along with playback speeds. You can hear it but not really worth hearing when its popping and jumping. I recommend proxy creation for clean playback with audio.
Wanting that new mac even more.
Used parachute with reserve 700 jumps.. for sale…
Nitro powered rc cars for sale
2 old mac pros for sale
2 medea video raids for saleDarin Wooldridge
d.i.colorist@mac.com
818-653-3918
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