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1920 x 1080 footage on Premiere cs5.5.2…. slow as hell :(
Hey everyone… I’m editing a 5 minute project together and premiere cs5.5.2 is getting to the point of not being able to load up the project…. its not loading up the media properly, sometimes not loading media at all or can’t find it, and on the rare occasion it all does load up, its definitely not playing in the timeline without jumps and stalls, and now its crashing on a regular basis. What gives? My laptop should be able to handle this… here are my specs:
Dell M4700
i7-3740QM
16gb RAM
Quadro K2000Mas of right now the project file and video files are all on a usb 2.0 hard drive. i figure thats the main problem, so i’m dumping everything to my internal 7200rpm 750gb HD(same hd that premiere is installed on). my scratch disk is currently a 128gb ssd.
i’m hoping that gets me to the point where premiere isn’t crashing every 10 seconds. the more 4+gb videos i’m loading in, the less premiere is able to handle.
looking around the ‘net i’m seeing people editing feature films with 1920×1080 footage on cs5.5.2… so i’m totally confused as to why i’m having so much trouble. can anyone shed any light on why my system is doing this, and how i can/if i should cheaply and quickly upgrade my system?
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[Sam Davidson] “as of right now the project file and video files are all on a usb 2.0 hard drive”
Slow media drive = very poor performance especially for large projects. What you describe is textbook slow media drive performance.
[Sam Davidson] “looking around the ‘net i’m seeing people editing feature films with 1920×1080 footage on cs5.5.2… so i’m totally confused as to why i’m having so much trouble. can anyone shed any light on why my system is doing this, and how i can/if i should cheaply and quickly upgrade my system?”
You need to have a VERY fast media array to edit HD. In our case we have a 100TB media array connected to 6 main workstations (iMacs, Mac Pro and a Dell) and at home I have an 8TB Media Array connected via Firewire to an iMac. Obviously the big array is much faster than the Firewire one, but both work with long projects.
The amount of free space on your drive is also a factor. Once you get past 75% full on any hard drive, performance will suffer and it will get worse as the drive fills up.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Mr Biscardi, thank you for the reply. please forgive my ignorance… i’ve never heard of a media array. What is it and can i/ should i add it to my laptop considering my specs? i’m working on a laptop with the above specs, including a 750gb HD where the OS and programs are installed, and a 128gb ssd for the scratch disk.
what would you do to my system considering i’d like to be mobile and edit HD?
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[Sam Davidson] “Mr Biscardi, thank you for the reply. please forgive my ignorance… i’ve never heard of a media array”
It’s essentially any configuration of 2 or more hard drives that work together as one large hard drive. The computer writes the information across all the drives at the same time so you get more speed during playback.
For the 8TB Firewire array that I have, it’s four 2TB hard drives inside the case. They are configured to act as one big hard drive so what I see on my computer is a single drive. The speed of the four drives working together exceeds the speed of a single hard drive.
The 100TB Array we have is two configurations of 16 drives working together and 8 drives working together. We can push speeds over 550MB/s on those systems.
Does that help?
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative MediaFoul Water Fiery Serpent, an original documentary featuring Sigourney Weaver. US & European distribution by American Public Television
MTWD Entertainment – Developing original content for all media.
“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.
“Science Nation” – Three years and counting of Science for the People. -
I guess my question would be, what would you recommend I get in order to be able to adequately handle 1920×1080 HD footage and still be mobile, considering my current specs and cost being a factor?
I have no problem having the geek squad or whomever changing my OS to my 128gb ssd, but what else would you recommend I do/get? Right now the OS and cs5 is on a 750gb 7200rpm HD, and a 128ssd for a scatch disk. I’m forced to use my 750gb hd or buy an external HD for my project.files… But I’ll go with your recommendation.
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A simple place to start would be connecting your external drive(s) via the M4700’s USB 3.0 or eSATA ports. Data transfer speeds will increase from about 25 MB/s on USB 2.0 to whatever the drive can support.
If you need to be mobile, a SSD will withstand motion better than a platter drive. ~500GB or even 960GB from Intel, Samsung, or Crucial will provide speed, capacity, and reliability.
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ivan, you would use a 960gb ssd for video file storage? or the ssd for the os/cs5?
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Mr. biscardi, any suggestions for hard drive configurations for a laptop? I’m getting suggestions for an esata external hd… or maybe another internal?
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180GB or 240GB is enough for a system drive, but 128GB might not be. A 960GB SSD would be for project files if you require the space and need to edit on the go. A platter drive is sufficient if it’s internal and has a motion detector. Going back to the original post, an internal or eSATA or USB 3.0 HDD will be faster than your USB 2.0 connection but slower than an SSD.
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