16:9 Studio Monitor Options?

[Jeff Bernstein]

Matthew,

You will need to take a step back and read Bob several posts on the Cow. If you take the time, you will realize that Bob is extremely helpful and quite knowledgeable. While Bob can be very sarcastic, many, if not most, of us on the Cow love it.

As you found out, he has a pet peeve for people who are trying to do things on the cheap for the sake of doing it on the cheap. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. FYI, I share the same pet peeve.

As such, if you made so much money, as you purport, than you should take that wad burning a hole in your wallet and spend it on a proper monitor. To that end, you will have a tough time finding one for less than $3500, in general.

Otherwise, lighten up.

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[Matthew Abourezk]

Wow…. okay then…
I have been on a shoot in Scotland for the past 8 days and had no internet access. Interesting to see how this thread has unfolded. Somehow Bob and a few others has painted me as specifically looking for an “$800 piece of crap”.

Reading through some of the posts in this thread are actually quite funny. I got a kick out of how quickly the intent of this thread spun out of control. But unfortunately, the bottom line is, it really got out of control.

Bob… count to ten dude. I’m guessing that you have high blood pressure, make sure you take your meds.

Jeff… you defend Bob’s aggressive attitude then tell me to lighten up?…. hmmm…

Anyway, I am not logging on to continue with the silly arguments, I am only logging on to address those of you who actually tried to help. Thank you for your help.

I am absolutely not trying to buy crap, I am trying to find answers to questions as fast as possible (because I have a lot of tight deadlines) by leveraging the experience of those who are farther down the road that I am on. If any of you truly think that I am doing something wrong by asking for help IN A FORUM, you need to ask yourself why you are in this forum to begin with.

As a matter of fact… why are ANY of us in this forum? It has been suggested that I should do a google search rather than ask questions in this forum… hmmm… Seems like a google search would lead me directly to this forum. But that is a conversation for another time.

As I said before, I find myself in a difficult situation, in a panic due to four projects that are stacked, and in need of quick help. No different than many or most of you that have posted in these forums.

Maybe Bob gets a free pass from those of you who are accustomed to him being an ass, but that doesn’t mean it is okay for him to rant and make accusations toward those that are here to find some level of assistance.

I clearly stated in my second post that it appears to me that I might need to pony up the cash for a true HD monitor, and somehow that caused Bob to go ballistic. Since that point, it seems as if my original intent has taken off on a tangent, mislead by Bob.

Anyway, I seem to be heading into argumentative mode so I will stop myself.

Thanks again to those of you who shared your experiences, your help is greatly appreciated.

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[Michael Milo]

I have been searching for some info on the lmd 2030w and came across this forum. I am testing the lmd 2030w monitor with a fcp system outputting sd via component declink card. (most of my work is done in this way and this system will likely not transition to HD.

There is terrible color bleeding around the edges of images as well as a terrible interlacing problem. I have tried many things to the fcp sequence – field order and de-interlacing but it does not correct the interlacing problem. I have also tried a CRT monitor and the interlacing problem disappears. Also I have tried the lmd 2050, the interlacing problem is still there but less noticeable. I have run the camera sony 370 dvcam into the monitor and there is no interlacing problem.

I am not certain what the source of the problem is. Is it the analogue signals inherent incompatibility with the lcd monitors and that I should find a good used crt reference monitor. Is it a problem with the declink card or some wrong settings?

You seemed to be happy with the sd quality on the lmd series monitors – what have you done?

[Chris Brown]

You will always see a little bit of the “interlacing problem” on the LMD-2050W. The 2030 is a bit more pronounced, as it’s lower end on the chain. Remember these monitors are progressive, so they have to process an interlaced signal into progressive, and then in the case of standard definition, up-scale it to the panel resolution. The LMD-2050W has better software than the 2030. It’s not perfect, but we’ve been getting good results on ours (the 2050W) which is hooked up to a Decklink card. We’re not doing anything different than using their output presets. I’m sure you’ve done this, but output color bars and calibrate the monitor to them so that you’re all setup. We haven’t seen any bad color tearing. It makes me wonder if you haven’t calibrated it to bars.

To me still, nothing compares to a good reference CRT. That’s why we’ve stocked up here before they started to stop selling them. You can find great deals on eBay, and JVC still has new standard and multi-definition CRTs available.

The Sony LMD series is pretty good…I’ll stop there at pretty good. The 2050W and larger models do a great job.

I’ll tell you what though, I was extremely impressed with the new Master Series models that they released to replace their master CRT series. They were exact match for match against the CRTs to my eyes…I just can’t affort $24,000 for the 24 inch model. Sony finally figured it out…but the price point is just nuts right now. I hope the LED technology and software from the new Master LCDs makes it’s way down into the LMD series in a couple of years…Sony will corner the market for professional LCDs at that point.

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[Ron James]

I swear by my Panasonic BT-LH1700W.

https://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?storeId…

Joey, I just came across this post trying to research a bit more info on these Panny monitors. Do you know if they’re capable of displaying interlacing? My concern, specifically, is the monitors ability to display interlacing problems, such as reversed fields in graphics, etc.

Thanks for any info!

[Joey Burnham]

Yes they do display fields. I have a Kona 3 here and there is an option to either display pause on the Full Frame or Single Field. Leaving it in Full Frame is what I do mainly so that when I’m editing I can tell if I’ve got a field from another scene in with the footage I want.