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  • 15 FPS animation in FCP? Help!!

    Posted by Jonathan White on March 2, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Hi I have a client who wants to make a stop frame animation with digital stills.
    He wants make it last 15 seconds at 15 frames per second??

    I think I can make this with Quicktime Pro but is there anyway to edit this in fcp?

    Or will I just double the frames and get it to be 18 secs long??

    Thanks for any help.

    Johnny

    Seanchas Productions, Galway, Ireland

    Dennis Radeke replied 15 years, 1 month ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    March 2, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    The lowest sequence rate FCP supports is 23.976. Don’t know why they stopped 15fps. It was in the earliest versions.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Alex Elkins

    March 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    [Jonathan White] “I think I can make this with Quicktime Pro but is there anyway to edit this in fcp?”

    Can anyone confirm whether this can be done in QT Pro? I have a similar job coming up and am wondering which software to use.

  • David Taylor

    March 7, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    You can import a image sequence into Quicktime and then save it out as a movie. The images must be numbered sequentially, e.g. still001.jpg, still002.jpg, still003.jpg, etc.
    It will ask you for the frame rate.

    DT Motion Pictures
    https://www.davetaylormp.com

  • Andy Mees

    March 8, 2009 at 3:53 am

    You can trick FCP into letting you edit in a non standard editing timebase such as 15 fps by creating a dummy project and saving it as an XML file, then edit that XML file in a text editor and change sequence’s rate >> timebase property and timecode >> rate >> timebase property to 15 (or whatever you need)
    Import that XML back into FCP (ignore the errors) and the new sequence created will be the one you need.

  • Andy Mees

    March 8, 2009 at 4:29 am

    Knew it was here somewhere (Thanks Bjoern) …

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1007928#1007983

  • David Taylor

    March 9, 2009 at 1:26 am

    You also may want to think about what your final format will be. If you’re going out to DVD you might want to go ahead and convert them to DV and edit them that way. There should be no trouble since you’re going from 15 to 30 so each frame will be doubled.

    I usually work in DV and last week a guy brought me some image sequences of an architectural 3D fly-through that he needed pieced together. They were 24fps, which I thought would be no big deal since I could combine each of the image sequences into a movie then edit in 24fps in FCP. They were also 1024×768, also no big deal since they were the right aspect ratio.

    I had no problem combining the image sequences into movies with QT. I had no problem editing in FCP in 24fps 1024×768. I ran into problems when I exported the movie for DVD. I got a glitch every place I had an edit. I never could figure out why. Under a hard deadline, I decided to convert all the 24fps movie pieces to DV so I could re-edit in that format. It worked but the results were less than stellar. I converted them using the open source VisualHub because it does it so quickly. (good, fast, cheap, pick two) That was my mistake, the client was not pleased with the slight stuttering effect that the conversion from 24 to 29.97 produced. So after further research I happened upon an old ally Ken Stone and he pointed me in the right direction on doing a proper conversion. Hope this ramble helps.

    https://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/converting_frame_rates_compressor.html

    DT Motion Pictures
    https://www.davetaylormp.com

  • Ricardo Guerreiro

    March 13, 2011 at 9:06 am

    What another great feature in FC Pro(?). Uau, I can do it on QT7 but not a professional editing software. Really, this is one of those things I really can’t understand. Want more ricidulous? There is. In Sequence Settings, click the Advanced button in QT Video Settings. You can choose 15gps but only to then be notified that “Frame Rate Change Ingored: Use Editing Timebase…”. Each day I find myself more wondering how Apple managed to be sucha successfull company and how everyone seems to think everything they do is just awesome. Will wait for the next Final Cut and see what comes out of it but seriously considering other options. Any one knows if this, the 15fps timelaine, can be done in Media Composer or Premiere? The way I will work around this is to create a 30fps timeline and put my original 15fps clip there. Visually it should be the same since everyframe will be doubled but playd only for half the time. Right?

    Tha workaround with the XML file, thanks for the the ood intentions of sharing it.. but did I pay 3000€ for a machine plus 1000€ for software to work stone age way?

    All the best.

  • Ricardo Guerreiro

    March 13, 2011 at 9:09 am

    What another great feature in FC Pro(?). Uau, I can do it on QT7 but not a professional editing software. Really, this is one of those things I really can’t understand. Want more ricidulous? There is. In Sequence Settings, click the Advanced button in QT Video Settings. You can choose 15gps but only to then be notified that “Frame Rate Change Ingored: Use Editing Timebase…”. Each day I find myself more wondering how Apple managed to be sucha successfull company and how everyone seems to think everything they do is just awesome. Will wait for the next Final Cut and see what comes out of it but seriously considering other options. Any one knows if this, the 15fps timelaine, can be done in Media Composer or Premiere? The way I will work around this is to create a 30fps timeline and put my original 15fps clip there. Visually it should be the same since everyframe will be doubled but playd only for half the time. Right?

    Tha workaround with the XML file, thanks for the the ood intentions of sharing it.. but did I pay 3000€ for a machine plus 1000€ for software to work stone age way?

    All the best.

  • Dennis Radeke

    March 13, 2011 at 9:30 am

    [Ricardo Guerreiro] “Any one knows if this, the 15fps timelaine, can be done in Media Composer or Premiere?”

    Yes for at least Premiere Pro.

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