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  • 10bit vs. RGB 10bit

    Posted by Kurt on February 22, 2007 at 3:48 am

    Can someone please shed some light on what the difference is between these two codecs?

    The reason I am asking is that I’ve rendered from After effects into the BlackMagic 10bit codec (also the Apple Uncompressed 10bit), and these files DO NOT look how they should, whereas if I render into the BlackMagic RGB 10bit, they look good.

    The image is made up of lots of small line drawn detail and type, so its more noticable here. But still, I am very confused. Why would the image look different? Very disconcerting.

    thanks
    Kurt

    Kristian Lam replied 19 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Margus Voll

    February 22, 2007 at 5:56 am

    Hi.

    I assume that just 10 bit sees colours etc differently (yuv maybe makes it).
    I have encountered something similar with combustion.

    If i render to 8 bits 4:2:2 then image gets a bit darker than the original.
    If i do it with 10 bit 4:4:4 or rgb then it is fine.

    Base material is 8 bit.

    It seems to me as RGB and CMYK differ littelebit in print world
    so in video RGB and YUV have a slight difference also.
    Logic behind those differ a bit.

    Meybe i’m wrong but its just my idea.

    Margus

    https://iconstudios.eu

  • Kurt

    February 22, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    I could see that RGB and YUV could be different, but what I’m noticing is a difference in image quality and resolution

    It appears to me that the BlackMagic RGB 10bit is sililiar in quality to Quicktime None, while the regular 10bit codec, and Apples 10bit codec (which is 4:2:2 incidentally) have a lower quality.

    confused

    Kurt

  • Kristian Lam

    February 22, 2007 at 11:09 pm

    Hi,

    The RGB 10-bit codec (HD only) is also 4:4:4 so the quality will be much better.

    regards

    Kristian Lam
    Blackmagic Design

  • Kurt

    February 23, 2007 at 12:05 am

    >Hi,

    >The RGB 10-bit codec (HD only) is also 4:4:4 so the quality will be much better.

    What does that mean? And, I was referring to the Apple 10bit codec.

    I’ve been working with this stuff all day today. I definately notice a quality difference between the normal BlackMagic 10bit, and the Blackmagic RGB 10bit

    Can someone speak about this?

    thanks
    Kurt

  • Kristian Lam

    February 23, 2007 at 2:51 am

    Hi Kurt,

    I would suggest this page for more information about 4:2:2 vs 4:4:4 :-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling

    regards

    Kristian Lam
    Blackmagic Design

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