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1080 24p Advanced from Panasonic HVX200A
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Joe,
The only way I could get PR422 to convert was to change the speed at the top of the panel from 29.97 to 23.98. When I did, the action was a bit stuttery. I can’t imagine doing this for a bunch of clips prior to editing. I would rather cut at 29.97.
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What are your project characteristics? Is the project (aka timeline) itself 23.98 or 29.97? Is it interlaced or progressive? Does the timeline also contain other clips from different cameras with different parameters? If so what are those?
Obviously we want the HVX200 material to work OK, but we must also verify the timeline parameters and that of the other clips.
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Joe,
My projects and timelines have always been 23.98, progressive. For many years, I shot 24pA with the HVX 200A and cut with FCP 7 with the Log & Transfer taking out the 3:2 pulldown. After converting to FCP X for editing, I continued to use FCP 7 to Log & Transfer my 24pA footage, which I would then import into FCP X. That workflow ended when my 2011 iMac died last spring and I purchased a new iMac (Catalina OS) which would not run FCP 7 or any legacy apps such as DVDSP4. The new iMac would not even boot up off an older OS such as Sierra or El Capitan which I had saved on an external drive. So unless, Apple comes up with a way to have FCP X to remove the pulldown on import, I have no other options.
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Unfortunately it seems, FCPX and Compressor can’t handle this material correctly. FCP7 had the tools, FCPX does not. Importing the footage in to Premiere shows the premiere understands what is happening and removes the correct adv pulldown frame and results in correct 23.976 playback. THere’s a checkbox in the interpret footage that says “Remove 24p Dv pulldown” that is enabled by default with this footage, so it is recognizing the flags. FCPX does not.
There was a software program that could help with this, called Calibrated Software, but I am not sure if it is relevant anymore as MXF is mostly supported natively on macOS these days, but it might be worth pinging the developer to check out any options they may have for you. Ideally, you’d run this software on the P2 footage itself, and get self-contained movs that you import to FCPX (similar to what happens when you use the import window in FCPX).
https://www.calibratedsoftware.com/ProductInfoFCPX.php
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Any chance that the free version of Resolve can remove the pulldown?
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That’s a good question but I don’t have it. Do you?
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Good thinking, but Resolve imports the footage as 29.97, not 23.98, so I don’t think Resolve has the ability to remove pulldown on import, and there’s no tool to use once the clip is in the media pool.
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It would be great if Apple came up with this feature in an upgrade of FCP X. I’m going to suggest it in FCP Feedback.
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I have Resolve Studio and it doesn’t seem to handle pulldown removal for already imported material. The manual says it can do it during capture from tape. There are several on line posts saying it won’t remove Panasonic’s advanced pulldown.
The Reverse Telecine filter of Compressor sort of handles it, IOW converts 29.97i to 23.98p with pulldown removal, but there’s something wrong with it. After about 50 frames there is some ghosting, maybe from incorrect pulldown removal or a deinterlacing error. It’s either a bug or maybe it’s not designed to handle Panasonic’s flavor of pulldown.
Premiere seems to handle it OK.
The HVX200 was a nice camera — introduced in 2005. Years ago I shot a lot of material on the DVX100p, which also could shoot 24p using advanced pulldown. However we never used that mode but 29.97i DV, for commonality with other cameras of that era.
Playing the original HVX200 file using VLC and with playback deinterlacing disabled, it visually appears four frames are progressive and the fifth frame is an interlaced blend.
Handbrake has a “detelecine” option and if I use the original clip, select 23.98 progressive output and disable deinterlacing, it seems to sort of work. But from a quality standpoint the output of Premiere seems to look better. Handbrake has a custom detelecine option but I don’t know how that works.
The HVX200 24 fps with advanced pulldown really should work in FCPX and apparently used to work in the legacy versions of FCP and Compressor back around 2010. However it doesn’t work in FCPX or Resolve. My old captured DVX100 AVI files are not supported any longer in FCPX either — if ever needed I’ll just transcode them using Handbrake or use Resolve.
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I believe Resolve can, but you have to do it through the Fusion page. It’s not a regular Media page import function or in Clip Attributes. I just glanced at the instructions. There’s an import function as part of the Loader node in Fusion. That has pulldown removal, but I don’t know about PA. I didn’t dig too deep because I haven’t spent much time with Fusion.
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