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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro 1080 24p Advanced from Panasonic HVX200A

  • Joe Marler

    October 3, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    “I’m using the Panasonic HVX 200A and shooting in the 1080 24p advanced codec. When I used FCP7, the clips were always ID’ed as 23.98 fps. Now that I’m using FCP X, the clips at that setting from that camera are ID’ed as 29.97 fps.”

    Do you have a test clip you could upload to DropBox or some other place we could examine? If you have proprietary content, usually any clip that FCPX can import can also be trimmed without re-encoding by Quicktime Player. It is easy to trim it down to a short “sanitized” clip, then save that. Doing so normally will not change the video header, encoding or anything else. Try doing that, then import the trimmed clip to verify it still has the same behavior. If so, then upload it to DropBox so we can examine it.

    The trim command in Quicktime Player is CMD+T. The below tutorial shows how to use it:

    https://youtu.be/W7NrlhZin4M

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  • Phil Snyder

    October 3, 2020 at 2:33 pm

    Joe,

    I can’t use dropbox because it’s full. Can I send it to you via wetransfer.com? If so, I need your email address.

    Phil

  • Doug Metz

    October 3, 2020 at 2:45 pm

    One other question… can you walk us through your workflow? Specifically, the steps between finished shoot and FCPX import.

  • Joe Marler

    October 3, 2020 at 3:01 pm
  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 3, 2020 at 3:35 pm

    Joe-

    It’s 24pA footage. A format left over from when baseband 24p was much more difficult than it is today.

    It’s a variation on 3:2 pulldown in that every 5th frame a pull down frame instead of every 3rd and fourth. The motion isn’t fluid, like 3:2, but it makes removing pulldown easier as there’s no frame reconstruction, just removing every fifth mushy frame.

  • Phil Snyder

    October 3, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    Jeremy,

    So why does FCP X see it as 29.97?

  • Phil Snyder

    October 3, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    Take #1 was Log & Transferred in FCP 7 and is seen by FCP X as 23.98.

    Take #9 was Imported in FCP X and seen in FCP X as 29.97.

    Now when I exported and re-imported into FCP X the clips I am sending to you, FCP X sees them as 23.98. Both are 24pA footage.

  • Phil Snyder

    October 3, 2020 at 4:41 pm

    Did you get them? There was a delay. I can re-send.

  • Joe Marler

    October 3, 2020 at 4:57 pm

    Phil, I only received the first one. Can you try uploading the 2nd one again?

    Note: I need a camera clip which if imported to FCPX on *your* machine, incorrectly is ID’d as 29.97 when it is actually 23.98.

    Just to be clear, if you export that from FCPX, it is re-encoded and the video header is changed, so I can’t use that for examination. I either need an original untouched camera clip or possibly a camera clip trimmed by Quicktime Player which displays the same behavior due to the no-encode trimming feature.

  • Phil Snyder

    October 3, 2020 at 5:07 pm

    OK. I’m going to re-send an original 24pA clip again which was ID’ed as 29.97.

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