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  • 10.1.3 bug?

    Posted by Scott Witthaus on September 22, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Clip with audio and video on timeline. Added a key-framed gaussian blur effect and then a logo on top. Client decides that the nat sound on the video ‘plate’ is not needed. I break apart video and audio to delete the audio. But as as soon as I do the break apart, the blur effect is deleted from the video. I can’t believe this is intended behavior. Happens with as many effects as I have tested. Anyone else?

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

    Jeff Kirkland replied 11 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    September 22, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    Geez it shouldn’t be normal behavior. But as I have never found any need to break apart audio I guess I’ve never run into this. Why not just turn off the audio in the inspector? Simpler, cleaner, and reversible.

  • Scott Witthaus

    September 22, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    [Bret Williams] “Why not just turn off the audio in the inspector? Simpler, cleaner, and reversible.”

    That is a good tip and thanks for that, but to the original point, I don’t think this should happen in the first place.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Nick Toth

    September 22, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Either turn off audio in the inspector or use “detach audio”. Break apart clip items does clear effects. It’s also pretty drastic and I’ve never found a need for using it on an individual clip. It is more suited to breaking apart compound clips or storylines.

    To shut off audio just use the inspector. As Bret indicated, it leaves you the option of turning it back on easily if the producer changes mind again. LOL – that’ll never happen!

    anickt

  • Oliver Peters

    September 23, 2014 at 12:45 am

    “Break items apart” has always deleted effects.

    You wouldn’t have had this problem with tracks 😉

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Scott Witthaus

    September 23, 2014 at 2:11 am

    [Oliver Peters] “You wouldn’t have had this problem with tracks ;-)”

    And how is this?

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Oliver Peters

    September 23, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Because you would have simply deleted that clip from the audio track.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Ronny Courtens

    September 23, 2014 at 11:59 am

    In a track-based system the video clip and its corresponding audio are always broken apart. You can put them in a nest to group them, but when you apply video or audio effects to the nest and then you break the nest apart again you also lose all the effects. So not much difference here.

    In FCP X it’s quite easy: you disable or remove video effects on a clip in the Video tab, and you disable or remove audio effects in the audio tab. No need to ever break apart a clip.

    – Ronny

  • James Ewart

    September 23, 2014 at 12:08 pm

    It always kind of confused me with Nests that it did not name it as such in the browser. Not that I suppose anybody is that much interested.

  • Oliver Peters

    September 23, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    [Ronny Courtens] “In a track-based system the video clip and its corresponding audio are always broken apart. You can put them in a nest …..So not much difference here.”

    Depends on the system. Not the case in Avid, as you can only collapse (better than nest, BTW) video tracks. What you describe is largely an FCP “legacy” methodology. And FWIW – I’ve always felt that nesting in the old FCP was pure evil and should be avoided at all costs. 😉

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Ronny Courtens

    September 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    And FWIW – I’ve always felt that nesting in the old FCP was pure evil and should be avoided at all costs. 😉

    Oliver, we certainly agree on that one (-:

    – Ronny

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