10.06 On Apple’s Website Now

[Jeremy Garchow]

I just sent a long feedback report. Here’s what I came up with:

– Make persistent ranges definable within each clip, meaning, give them an icon similar to favorite ranges, rejection ranges, even keyword ranges (a Blue Key, Red X, Green star, etc) so we can see if there’s a persistent range no matter if we are in filmstrip or list view in the Event. Or have a Range In/out columns in the browser for list view.

– Have two different kinds of ranges, persistent, and not persistent. This would allow me to control what I want to hold on to, and what I want the program to forget when I click away. Temporary ranges could be a click and drag, and persistent ranges could be an option click and drag, or vice versa.

– Have a modifier key for range tagging that applies the keyword/favorite to the whole clip instead of just a persistent range. if I wanted to keyword 500 clips at once, I could hit ‘control-option-KeywordNumber’ to tag the whole clip and ignore any persistent ranges, and ‘control-KeywordNumber’ to tag any ranges that might be selected. Or hit ‘option-f’ to favorite the whole clip, and f favorites the persistent ranges. If a clip doesn’t have a persistent range on it, the whole clip is keyworded/favorited/etc

– Have a preference to turn off persistent ranges completely.

Jeremy

[Steve Connor]

I, for one, welcome our new PIOP overlords

Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Steve Connor] “I, for one, welcome our new PIOP overlords”

I know the value of them, I just wish they didn’t break some good things in FCPX.

[James Ewart]

I’m sorry to be so far behind but are you saying multiple previous range selections are saved or can be saved because for the life of me I cannot see where.

I do kind of get why Avid editors are just saying…”why the f..k change it when it works just okay as it is”?

[Jeremy Garchow]

[James Ewart] “I’m sorry to be so far behind but are you saying multiple previous range selections are saved or can be saved because for the life of me I cannot see where.”

With 10.0.6, a range is automatically saved. It is a dim yellow line on your clips that you can only see on a filmstrip or if your Event is sorted in filmstrip view, otherwise, they are invisible but present none the less.

Before 10.0.6, you had to tell the software what you wanted to save through a number of really easy to use key commands.

When you start adding range based metadata, this makes a huge difference in operability.

Range based metadata is one of the things that I find to be very helpful and useful in FCPX as I can sort footage in a variety of ways using a variety of methods that help me edit my projects and group footage to my liking dynamically.

Now the software makes more decisions for me and causes way more keystrokes and unintentional mistakes than before the update.

I use persistent in and out points in other NLEs because they make sense, they make less sense in FCPX, but my opinion is very unpopular.

[James Ewart]

Thanks I’ve noticed these appeared now but also before that if you used match frame (shift F) it remembered which bits you used for that clip in the timeline anyway so what’s the point…it only seems to remember the most recent range in the event browser no?

How did you do it before by the way?

[Jeremy Garchow]

[James Ewart] “.it only seems to remember the most recent range in the event browser no?”

You can make multiple ranges if you’d like, after making one range, hold command and drag another. You can command drag as many new ones as you want, they will all be remembered until
cleared. There are also keyboard shortcuts for these actions.

[James Ewart] “How did you do it before by the way?”

I used favorites or rejects or keywords to mark ranges. The nice thing is you can sort the event browser by these ranges, not so with PIOPs, unfortunately.

[James Ewart]

which is quite cool because you can select three ranges from one clip and drop them all into the timeline at once. Not that I am aware of ever needing to do that…but how do you delete and what are the keyboard shortcuts …there seem to be more keyboard shortcuts than ever before I think.

And I’m with you I was using keywords to mark up clips…this seems a little lazy and liable to get a bit messy.

Still can’t figure how to delete.

[James Ewart]

okay found the relevant help section now thanks

[Steve Connor]

Funny how muscle memory kicks in, when I have the viewer enabled I’ve been double clicking clips to load them!

Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”