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10.0.6 a significant turning point.
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[Jim Giberti] “What kind of ad shops have you been involved with Bill?
I’m owner and creative director of one and what you describe is more like anarchy, and a pretty shitty agency.”As you well know, Jim the chance of a full blown advertising agency being involved in a story like the one referenced is slim to none.
This isn’t an ad – it’s editorial. (tho I know the distinction is often blurred these days!)
For a national level ad – particularly one supported by a robust ad buy – the higher the level of professionalism and quality you and I would expect in the accompanying photo.
But this publication is advertorial at best.
The story might be about FCP-X – but the accompanying “illustration” which never even purports in the caption to be the people or even the agency referenced by the story.
I spent more than a decade as a contributing editor to a national circulation magazine. I’ve written way more than 100 articles that were accompanied by various types of art and photography.
And I know a disconnect between copy and art when I see one.
And if that isn’t enough, I did a quick web check on Small Tree Designs – the company referenced – it’s located on the first floor of a two story office building facing a freeway in Oakdale MN.
How does that square up with the view out the window in that photo to your eye?
FWIW.
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[Bill Davis] “As you well know, Jim the chance of a full blown advertising agency being involved in a story like the one referenced is slim to none. “
I guess I don’t know that or anything about the article.
I was just referencing your comment: “In that real world, you’re extremely lucky if what the art department does in layout directly relates to your copy.” and I only think of art departments in agency context
If you were talking about an art dept in a magazine then I have no point of reference and cede the floor.
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[Bill Davis] “o sorry, but this part of the thread in nothing but another example of someone (Chris H. here) looking to push the facts to suit their worldview.
Take just a second to LOOK at the photo. Yep, real editors, when the photog show up are ALWAYS working at a desk without a single scrap of paper, pencil, stain, or coffee cup, and with every cable perfectly dressed. Right?
“WTF? You are one crazy mofo, Bill. Somehow my pointing out a small bit of irony, is “another example of someone (Chris H. here) looking to push the facts to suit their worldview.” I swear, there is something seriously wrong with you.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “so here for you is the problem – I, focused on the lower third in my mind, cannot simply extend the export range in my head beyond the lower third with my range selection – range selection stops when the video objects stop.
“What are you on about? of course range selection stops when there are no video objects, if there’s no video objects then there’s nothing to export. You set your range selection on the primary!
[Aindreas Gallagher] ” and is also, lest we forget – a market failure. apple have three guys on a website. not so much.”
If we’re using your terms for market failure then add in Vegas, Edius and even Premiere Pro to that.
Much as I enjoy using FCPX, there is a part of of me that hopes that it does fail, just for you Aindreas, you’ve put so much hard work into convincing people that it will.
Steve Connor
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “so here for you is the problem – I, focused on the lower third in my mind, cannot simply extend the export range in my head beyond the lower third with my range selection – range selection stops when the video objects stop.”
No it doesn’t?
You can mark an out anywhere, and export.
Have you even tried the new exporting options in 10.0.6?
[Aindreas Gallagher] “that statement feels close to seeman saying that the future extended database is the source of cold fusion.”
Look here and tell me the framework isn’t there:
It’s just like when people said they would never add a Viewer, when the framework was already there in the angle viewer.
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What’s “wrong” with me is that I don’t accept BS arguments.
You’re the guy who popped up with the foolish opinion that because the photo illustration over the article showed FCP7 rather than X that it meant that the article’s author was promoting X but using 7.
All I did was point out the fact that the art over the article was a general illustration – not some window into reality.
I understand that because I have some experience in the magazine world.
If you want to make points about FCP-X, you’d be well served to base them on actual facts rather then leaping to conclusions as you did in this case. Simple as that.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You can mark an out anywhere, and export.
Have you even tried the new exporting options in 10.0.6?”
yes I have and you are incorrect mate. hitting i only works as long as there is something in the primary, if you are working in the secondary or connected say at the end of the sequence, with nothing in the primary below – hitting i does nothing. Its actually precisely the opposite of what you are saying – you absolutely cannot set an in out anywhere, and you can only drag ranges on objects. hence my point – selection is object tied. corset.
Capiche?
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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So you’re saying the framework is there or are you just going to ignore that part?
[Aindreas Gallagher] “Capiche?”
Nada. Tell me what you can’t do in FCPX when it comes to export. Let’s work that way.
Anyone who knows how it works will know you have to put something in the primary, gap or otherwise.
If you can’t export what you want from FCPX, you would have a point, but since you can export what you want, I am having trouble understanding what corset is being tied.
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[Bill Davis] “What’s “wrong” with me is that I don’t accept BS arguments.”
How can you say that, since you make them with such astounding regularity.
[Bill Davis] “You’re the guy who popped up with the foolish opinion that because the photo illustration over the article showed FCP7 rather than X that it meant that the article’s author was promoting X but using 7.
“I did nothing of the kind. Reread my words. Here they are. “I do enjoy the fact that the extremely large illustrative photo for that X article is a guy sitting in front of FCP 7.”
[Bill Davis] “All I did was point out the fact that the art over the article was a general illustration – not some window into reality.”
Window into reality? What? Huh? You have a fever or something? I was simply mentioning an ironic mismatch of photo and article.
[Bill Davis] “If you want to make points about FCP-X, you’d be well served to base them on actual facts rather then leaping to conclusions as you did in this case. Simple as that.
“Make points? Leaping to conclusions? Why don’t you reprocess who exactly is leaping to conclusions here, Bill. Or for that matter, trying to make points. It might astound you.
I gotta tell you, man you blow my mind sometimes.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “yes I have and you are incorrect mate. hitting i only works as long as there is something in the primary, if you are working in the secondary or connected say at the end of the sequence, with nothing in the primary below – hitting i does nothing. Its actually precisely the opposite of what you are saying – you absolutely cannot set an in out anywhere, and you can only drag ranges on objects. hence my point – selection is object tied. corset.”
You are really showing your ignorance of how FCPX works here Aindreas, firstly there is always something in the primary even if its a gap clip and marking i and o works perfectly well with a gap clip in place!
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”
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