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  Advanced physical 8mm film effects in Vegas

  Posted by Curtis Enlow on October 21, 2009 at 7:51 pm

  I am aware of the color correction aspects of emulating film, but I am interested in replicating the look of projected 8/16mm film, as in sprocket stutter, end-of-reel, vertical crawl & stutter of clips (like bad vertical ‘hold’ on an analog TV) – that sort of thing. Does anyone have any tips or techniques they would like to share?

  Also, I can’t find a ‘countdown’ pre-roll slate in Vegas (like the one in FC). Is there one hidden somewhere? One available online for free? Projector sound effects, too, possibly? Start-up, running, stutter and end-of-reel slap?

  Thanks a lot!

  Curtis

  Curtis Enlow replied 16 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  John Rofrano

  October 21, 2009 at 8:40 pm

  I would start with the Sony Film Effects plug-in. It can add Dust, Flicker, Hair, Jitter, & Scratches in addition to gain and Tint.

  There are lots of countdown video clips at FotoSearch.com. Here is a projector audio clip. In all seriousness, it might help to learn how to use Google. (I found all of these in like 2 seconds)

  ~jr

  http://www.johnrofrano.com
  http://www.vasst.com
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  Curtis Enlow

  October 21, 2009 at 8:56 pm

  You know, I’ve played with those and while they work well ‘on the fly’ I’ve found the simulated stutter, etc, still look…simulated. The stuttered from moves too smoothly. Although, I wonder if applying the effect and THEN converting to 24p wouldn’t make the motion jerkier?

  I was thinking more along the lines of things like cropping or moving a frame in such a way as to actually make it jump up & down like when a projector misses sprocket holes and you actually see half the frame above and half the frame below momentarily divided in the screen. I suppose I could spend a whole day experimenting to try and emulate that, but was just hoping that maybe someone would share their experiences in how to actually do that and make it look real (or should that be reel?).

  Also, the end-of-reel ‘bloom’ of partially exposed film. I guess one could simply animate the brightness or do a slow fade-to-white? But I get the feeling that still wouldn’t look real. Anyone try tricks like that? I imagine de-saturating the color at the same time would be an effect of end-of-reel overexposure?

  Also, I would like to creat the pre-roll runner with the handwritten marker notes on clear film. I wonder if anyone has tried simulating that?

  Thanks for the suggestion, though, I appreciate it.

  Curtis
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  John Frey

  October 22, 2009 at 5:08 am

  Interesting – I have spent the last 27 years, among many other production services, transferring 8, Super8 and 16mm film to video. I see the things that you describe on a weekly basis. Now, with digital capture to a NLE, I spend quite a bit of time in CCing these files to mitigate these very effects. I know, shoot some 8mm film, transfer it to video, and, there you go! Just kidding – good luck.

  John D. Frey
  25 Year owner/operator of two California-based production studios.

  Digital West Video Productions of San Luis Obispo and Inland Images of Lake Elsinore
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  Curtis Enlow

  October 22, 2009 at 6:35 pm

  I know, ironic, huh? All the advantages of digital video and we go through all this trouble trying to re-create a 60-year old media technology…

  For anyone following this thread and doing similar work I found some excellent, FREE projector samples at freesound.org

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