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  • DVDA 4 question…(related to documents)

    Posted by Pballain on April 28, 2007 at 2:00 am

    Is there a way to add documents (pdf, doc, xls, etc.) files onto a DVD using Architect? Many DVD’s have video and then folders with documents for use on a computer…any way to do this?

    Terje A. bergesen replied 19 years ago 5 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    April 28, 2007 at 2:52 am

    There sure is 🙂
    DVDA 3 added a feature called the Extras folder. Look it up in Help and it’ll walk you through it.
    In a nutshell, you create a 3rd folder (in addition to the usual AUDIO_TS & VIDEO_TS ones) called Extras and put anything you want in it.
    When it comes time to burn the DVD, tell DVDA where the folder is and it’ll add it to the process.
    I personally use RecordNow and burn my DVD as a data disc. I add the Extras folder at the time of burning.

  • George Wing

    April 28, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    [Mike Kujbida] “I personally use RecordNow and burn my DVD as a data disc. I add the Extras folder at the time of burning.”

    Not all burning software will burn a DVD-DATA disc properly for dvd-video, so taking this approach *might* create an unplayable DVD-VIDEO disc (depends on the burning software, and the tolerance of the dvd player). So if you’re using something other than RecordNow (which apparently burns properly in DATA mode), check if your burning software offers an option for DVD-VIDEO (vs. DVD DATA).

    Regards,
    George

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 28, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    George, I’m not making a DVD-DATA disc, I’m making a normal DATA disc.
    After all, a DVD is just a bunch of data that a player knows how to interpret.
    As I said, I was doing the Extras folder thing long before DVDA added this feature.
    I use DVDA to Prepare the AUDIO_TS & VIDEO_TS files.
    I then add any files I want to another folder called Extras.
    I then use RecordNow (you can use burning any app that will do a DATA disc) to burn all 3 folders to a DVD as a DATA disc.
    Works like a charm and I’ve never had any complaints (after several hundred of these) that the disc didn’t work 🙂

  • George Wing

    April 29, 2007 at 2:49 am

    [Mike Kujbida] “After all, a DVD is just a bunch of data that a player knows how to interpret.”

    For DVD-VIDEO, the files within the folders are written in the proper order/sequence to disc — RecordNow must be doing that for you. But if you take something like NERO, and burn a regular DATA disc by adding the VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS and EXTRAS folders, you might not be so lucky (because it will not properly write them to disc (for DVD-VIDEO).

    So I’m just cautioning those who might not be using RecordNow (or burning software that burns DATA discs properly for DVD-VIDEO) — there’s more to it than that…

    Regards,
    George

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 29, 2007 at 1:53 pm

    George, it’s not RecordNow creating a DVD-VIDEO for me.

    As I said, I use the Prepare option in DVD Architect (aka DVDA) to create the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders (in a separate folder) for me.
    Once that’s done, I add the Extras folder that I’ve created elsewhere) and use RecordNow to burn all the files as a DATA disc.
    BTW, I know this works with Nero, Roxio and several other apps as others have done the exact same thing with these apps.

  • George Wing

    April 29, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    Mike, you’re not getting the point. The files within the VIDEO_TS folder must be burned in the proper order/sequence to disc. I don’t care what application prepares your VIDEO_TS folder — that’s not what I am saying. It’s when you go to burn to disc that is important to maintain the DVD-VIDEO standard for proper file placement.

    I’m saying that RecordNow must be “recognizing” your VIDEO_TS folder/files, and is properly burning the files in the correct order (and actual placement on disc).

    If you burn a DATA disc in NERO (from a valid VIDEO_TS folder), you will get varying results. But if you select the “DVD VIDEO” option in NERO (at least in Nero 6.0 Express that came with one of my burners), you increase the chances that you are burning the folder/files properly (in the right sequence — IFO/VOB/BUP).

    Regards,
    George

  • Mike Kujbida

    April 29, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    Mike, you’re not getting the point.

    With all due respect, you seem to be missing mine. See below for another attempt at clarification.

    I’m saying that RecordNow must be “recognizing” your VIDEO_TS folder/files, and is properly burning the files in the correct order (and actual placement on disc).

    Nope. It’s simply copying whatever I give it without making any changes whatsoever.
    Since I’m using DVD Architect to “prepare” the DVD, fhe files within my VIDEO_TS folder are already in the “correct order”.
    Therefore I don’t need to worry about it.

    Let’s try this one more time.

    Before I do any burning, I create a master folder (call it MyDVD for this example) containing two separate folders: a VIDEO_TS folder and an AUDIO_TS folder (not really necessary but DVDA prepares it anyway).

    After I put what I want in my Extras folder, I add it to the MyDVD master folder and then burn this as a data disc.

    To repeat, my MyDVD folder contains 3 folders as follows:
    VIDEO_TS
    AUDIO_TS
    Extras

    This is what gets burned as a data disc.

    Does this clear things up?

    If you burn a DATA disc in NERO (from a valid VIDEO_TS folder), you will get varying results.

    I’d be curious to know if this is happening to any other Nero 6.0 Express users or if it’s an isolated incident.
    This is the first time I’ve heard of this happening and I’ve been using Vegas since version 1.0 and reading/posting to various Vegas forums for almost as long.

  • Terje A. bergesen

    April 29, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    [Mike Kujbida] “Therefore I don’t need to worry about it.

    Let’s try this one more time”

    Let me jump in with some technical information before someone gets hurt. You are both almost correct.

    Most good DVD players today will read just about anything and play it, so for a good portion of the market, it doesn’t really matter. It is however possible to take a Vegas-prepared directory structure and not have it play on a DVD player. In other words, there is a right and a wrong way to burn the exact same data to a disk.

    George isn’t articulating what he is trying to say very well, so I will try to do it for him.

    Many older DVD players do not recognize multi-session DVDs. In other words, if you burn the VIDEO_TS folder to your DVD, and do not “finalize” the DVD, and later add the data folder, you might be in trouble. This is why a number of DVD players have problems with set-top DVD recorders. Some of these record multi-session.

    If you have all the data prepared beforehand and burn it to disk in one go, and also remember to “finalize” the disk when you are done, you will not have any problems.

    Note, this is the default behavior of the majority of DVD burning software out there, some of them will not even tell you that they are burning in one session and finalizing he disk afterwards. In most cases you will have to make an effort to burn multi-session, and then you probably know that a lot of DVD players will not read your disk.

    [George W.] “you’re not getting the point. The files within the VIDEO_TS folder must be burned in the proper order/sequence to disc”

    This is incorrect. The order with which stuff gets burned to a random-access media should never matter. It does matter whether your DVD was burned single- or multi session however. Some info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_formats


    Terje A. Bergesen : https://terje.bergesen.info/

  • George Wing

    April 29, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    [Mike Kujbida] “Nope. It’s simply copying whatever I give it without making any changes whatsoever.
    Since I’m using DVD Architect to “prepare” the DVD, fhe files within my VIDEO_TS folder are already in the “correct order”.
    Therefore I don’t need to worry about it.”

    The correct files are in the folder, but they are not necessarily in the proper order to be burned to disc for DVD-VIDEO. The order they should be burned is IFO/VOBs/BUP.

    [Mike Kujbida]
    “I’d be curious to know if this is happening to any other Nero 6.0 Express users or if it’s an isolated incident.
    This is the first time I’ve heard of this happening and I’ve been using Vegas since version 1.0 and reading/posting to various Vegas forums for almost as long.”

    The version of NERO I have also issues a warning if I select to burn a DATA disc, and drag a VIDEO_TS folder to it — because it is warning me that I should be burning as a DVD-VIDEO instead to ensure the files will get burned properly.

    Regards,
    George

  • George Wing

    April 29, 2007 at 8:05 pm

    [Terje A. Bergesen] “Let me jump in with some technical information before someone gets hurt. You are both almost correct.

    Most good DVD players today will read just about anything and play it, so for a good portion of the market, it doesn’t really matter. It is however possible to take a Vegas-prepared directory structure and not have it play on a DVD player. In other words, there is a right and a wrong way to burn the exact same data to a disk.

    George isn’t articulating what he is trying to say very well, so I will try to do it for him.”

    Terje, before you try to articulate for me, and jump in with your “technical” information, I would ask you to do some more research to find out more about proper placement of the files within a VIDEO_TS folder for DVD-VIDEO. What I am talking about has nothing to do with finalizing or multi-session burns (although they too can come into play when trying to produce a compatible disc).

    [Terje A. Bergesen] “[George W.] “you’re not getting the point. The files within the VIDEO_TS folder must be burned in the proper order/sequence to disc”

    This is incorrect. The order with which stuff gets burned to a random-access media should never matter. It does matter whether your DVD was burned single- or multi session however.”

    Let me try to say it again — for DVD-VIDEO the files within the VIDEO_TS folder should be burned in the proper order/sequence — IFO/VOBs/BUP. If you do a little more research and find that is not true, please let me know…

    Regards,
    George

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