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  • This is stupid and Annoying…..

    Posted by Randall Clarke on October 14, 2005 at 2:31 am

    I have tried previous versions of vegas and just purchased 6.0. Now, I thought this would have been changed by now but it has not.
    If you go into a titling box for example (same with audio) and select a preset, it applies, close, and then go back into that box, it displays “untitled” in the preset box even though the preset you selected is in effect. Why does it not say the preset you selected ????? This is stupid. There are some instances where you might not even now the preset you selected – I have studied the box and see no indication of the selected preset…Am I missing something or is this pretty bad ???

    thanks

    Randall Clarke replied 20 years, 7 months ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • Mike Kujbida

    October 14, 2005 at 2:46 am

    Am I missing something

    Nope.

    or is this pretty bad ???

    Yep!!
    Sony has been asked repeatedly to fix this but so far nothing 🙁

  • Gary Kleiner

    October 14, 2005 at 6:26 am

    You are correct, with the exception of track-level audio FX.

    Gary

  • Peter Wright

    October 14, 2005 at 7:16 am

    Yes, I seem to remember submitting this as a product suggestion about two versions ago.

    Since nothing has happened, I wouldn’t mind at least knowing why it isn’t possible.

    Peter Wright
    Perth, Western Oz
    http://www.allroundvision.com.au

  • Adam Rose esq.

    October 14, 2005 at 12:55 pm

    Although is probably implemented this way because once you make any changes, however small, the preset is no longer applicable, and rather than distinguish between a vegas preset and one that has been customised by a fraction, they simply blanket all with that description

    also, some keyframes might use a preset while others don’t, so which do you describe in the box? Should it update depending on the keyframe one selects? Does AE (at which I am a relative noob) change the effect description based on keyframe selected? I don’t think so……

    correct me if I’m wrong, of course.

  • Peter Wright

    October 14, 2005 at 1:47 pm

    What it needs is whenever a set of settings which correspond exactly to a saved preset are encountered, then that preset name appears in the box at the top.

    So if you reopen an FX window where the first keyframe is a saved preset, then the preset’s name is shown.
    If there are multiple keyframes, then the name only appears when the settings all fit for the currently selected keyframe.

    Peter Wright
    Perth, Western Oz
    http://www.allroundvision.com.au

  • Edward Troxel

    October 14, 2005 at 4:02 pm

    [Peter Wright] “What it needs is whenever a set of settings which correspond exactly to a saved preset are encountered, then that preset name appears in the box at the top.”

    Ok, from a programmer’s point of view… What if you have TWO presets with the EXACT SAME SETTINGS? Which should appear? The first one alphabetically? The first one created? The last one created?

    The current behaviour makes perfect sense to me. You pick a preset and it changes the settings to that preset’s values. They’re a STARTING point. Now you make adjustments to fine tune for that particular video clip. It saves the SETTINGS – it doesn’t need to know IF a preset was used or, if used, which one was used. Therefore, it also can’t recall if a preset was used.

    Gary is correct that the same seems to remain on audio track effects. However, that is just as confusing because I changed a couple of settings and it STILL recalled that preset name although the settings were NOT the same as that preset. I then picked that same preset name again and NOTHING CHANGED. I had to pick a different preset and then come back to the original preset before the settings were changed back.

    I understand it would be nice. But the question becomes how PRACTICAL it is.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Peter Wright

    October 15, 2005 at 12:51 am

    Thanks Ed – good to see the programming perspective.

    Peter Wright
    Perth, Western Oz
    http://www.allroundvision.com.au

  • Tom Mcnally

    October 15, 2005 at 2:05 pm

    Perhaps it could say “Preset name – (modified)”. You could change all the settings to be the same as another saved preset setting, but your starting point was the initial preset you have selected.

    Tom McNally

  • Randall Clarke

    October 15, 2005 at 10:34 pm

    Okay so I’m not missing anything.
    As for the programmers perspective, I’m still at a loss. If the settings match a preset, the box should read that preset – full stop.
    If the settings are modified and not saved, then untitled. If modified to users saved setting – then that title the user gave it !!!
    I mean you can take a sound fx in a chain, set it, go to the next one in the chain, then back one and it reads untitled…but you just set it to a preset 2 seconds earlier….I always brag about how good vv is…perhaps a microsoft programmer got in there and is responsible for this because this microsoftonian….

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