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big problem with AE and FCP
ok guys another problem, need some help bad because something is very wrong, thanks in advance for the help, ok here we go
let me explain my workflow
the delivery has to be ntsc 29.97 in either a mpeg2 or mpeg4 file for the broadcast station, no tape just a digital file
my workflow is as follows, I shoot hvx200 at 720P 30PN at 30fps
I edit in fcp in hd as normal and then send those hd clips to ae cs3 as
a ref movie, in AE I create a new comp as regular ntsc dv D1 0.9 720×480 scale my HD clips to make sure they fit on a SD comp by “transform fit to comp width” and this creates the letterboxing effect
also, I make sure that on project settings my depth is set to 8 bits, working space is set to “none” and the “match legacy quicktime gamma adjust” is checkedok so I do as I normally do, do my graphics and text and all, when it comes time to render I render as dvcpro50 as highest quality, interlaced
now back in fcp I just export as mpeg4 or as mpeg2 using compressor, now somewhere along this adventure, something is wrong because it looks like crap, a lot of artefacts and the quality is just not there, please help me out and maybe someone can help me to see what I am doing wrong, thanks again guys
mike
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Your workflow, as I understand what you have described, introduces unnecessary compression, decompression, and recompression steps. You want as many of these steps eliminated as possible. I’d stay in FCP until the last export stage. AE is not meant to be a format conversion system nor is it a video editor altho the capabilities are certainly there. I would never edit a program in AE. I do text and graphics in After Effects and export those items as animation movies and take them into FCP.
bogiesan
[mike mills] “my workflow is as follows, I shoot hvx200 at 720P 30PN at 30fps
I edit in fcp in hd as normal and then send those hd clips to ae cs3 as
a ref movie, in AE I create a new comp as regular ntsc dv D1 0.9 720×480 scale my HD clips to make sure they fit on a SD comp by “transform fit to comp width” and this creates the letterboxing effect
also, I make sure that on project settings my depth is set to 8 bits, working space is set to “none” and the “match legacy quicktime gamma adjust” is checked
ok so I do as I normally do, do my graphics and text and all, when it comes time to render I render as dvcpro50 as highest quality, interlaced
now back in fcp I just export as mpeg4 or as mpeg2 using compressor, “This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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well that is really some bad news because after reading these forums for so long I learned that the “experts here” say that AE does a great job at downscaling HD to SD, so that is a contradiction to what you are telling me, now point number two, I cannot stay in fcp I do so many effects to the live footage in AE and so many plug ins are there that its imposible to change that, agiain someone please help
Thanks agian
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anyone? ideas??
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[mike mills] “well that is really some bad news because after reading these forums for so long I learned that the “experts here” say that AE does a great job at downscaling HD to SD, so that is a contradiction to what you are telling me, now point number two, I cannot stay in fcp I do so many effects to the live footage in AE and so many plug ins are there that its imposible to change that, agiain someone please help “
Try posting on another AE forum if you’re not getting the answers you want. Do those guys a favor and include the advice you’re received here so they don’t waste any more of your time.
If you process your entire show in AE, you must determine an economical way to reduce or avoid the inevitable compression and image degradation imposed by your format conversions and effects.
One of the better tools for your workflow is probably going to be Automatic Duck which will bring your FCP project into AE as a series of individual layers instead of a reference movie. But you will still need to change everything about how you move from FCP to AE and back to FCP.
bogiesan
This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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https://help.adobe.com/en_US/AfterEffects/9.0/WSDAA79084-B2A4-4085-9B98-9A7B57DABE62a.html
Might help you figure out a more appropriate route for your clips.
bogiesan
This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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Thank you sir, I will have to look elsewhere, but thank you for your time
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