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What are the big guys using?
Hey Everyone,
When transcoding…our company uses Sorenson Squeeze. I was wondering, what do other big sites use to compress? Is there software that does a much better job than Sorenson. Price is not an concern.
-Jason
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The big boys use commercial solutions from the likes of:
Rhozet
Anystream
Digital Rapids
Telestream
etcor develop in house solutions based around things like:
ffmpeg
x264
avisynth
virtualdub
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Sorenson is one of the best encoding suites in the industry…
Most “big boys” do not even understand their own demographic when encoding and just assume what they are using is the best because of speed and percieved image quality at high bit rates.
For low bit rate encoding with higher image quality and smaller file sizes my own tests show that not much can out perform Sorenson.
The main limitation is that Sorenson 5 for PC does not perform any faster on a multi core computer because they do not have the technology in it to use the multiple processors.
So if you are a “little guy” doing small volume of encoding then Sorenson is likely the best and most affordable solution available that yields exceptional quality compression with the industry standard codecs like Main Concept h.264 and vp6
Josh Anderson
CEO, Internet Business Ideas Inc.
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“Sorenson is one of the best encoding suites in the industry… “
What a strange, bold and rather contradictory statement considering you then go on to say:
“The main limitation is that Sorenson 5 for PC does not perform any faster on a multi core computer because they do not have the technology in it to use the multiple processors. “
And then in another post to this forum moan about the lack of support from the company.
“Sorenson support is no help ask they have no clue when it comes to encoding an avi with alpha channel to flv with alpha channel.”
Why would anybody want to buy a product from a company who “have no clue”?
“So if you are a “little guy” doing small volume of encoding then Sorenson is likely the best and most affordable solution available”
If you spent anytime looking through this forum, you find that there are plenty of “little guys” having terrible problems with Squeeze, not only technical issues but quality and support problems too.
Having used almost every encoding product out there, I can assure you that it is far from being one of the best.
That said, you are entitled to your opinion and I’d be very interested to hear what you compared it to in your own tests.
“Most “big boys” do not even understand their own demographic when encoding and just assume what they are using is the best because of speed and percieved image quality at high bit rates. “
The big boys require far more than ‘just’ speed and quality from an encoding solution.
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I have been using Sorenson for years. I was a beta tester for version 5 and love the software.
The company provides excellent support however the staff member who responded to my enquiry about alpha channel encoding was only able to answer it from a mac end and I need to know specifically how to encode an avi with alpha created with ultra… but that is not really relevant to this conversation.
What my post was trying to elaborate was that Sorenson while a great solution for small batches lacks the ability to take advantage of multi core computers to speed up the process.
So for large batch encoding such as thousands of files that may be indicative of needs of “big boys” ie larger companies Sorenson may not provide the speed needed to get the work done fast.
However for the individual… the price and quality of the product is unparalleled in this industry.
If the sole purpose of your post was to berate or belittle me for offering my opinion…
Well that’s not a great example of professionalism. I suggest you reconsider your approach to human relations.
Josh Anderson
CEO, Internet Business Ideas Inc.
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Josh,
What other packages do you have extensive experience with? Enough in-depth experience that’s is to claim that the price and quality of Squeeze is “unparalleled in this industry”.
How closely did you compare it to Canopus Procoder, for example, which costs the same and is in my opinion a better product.
The purpose of my post was not to berate or belittle you, but I have come across people like yourself on these forums, who are run of a multitude of companies, ‘affiliate’ money -making schemes, who’ve never posted here before, yet in their first posts claim to be experts.
E.G.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/117/856632
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/117/856768I just find something fishy about somebody who claims to “have created some of the internet’s most innovative audio and video publishing strategies, players, and services“, along with “The Greatest Web Video Effect Ever” and “How You Can Make A Pile Of Cash From The Total Web Video Affiliate Program”, uses Squeeze.
Bottom line is I believe you posted your reply here largely in order to generate search engine hits for your name and links, a little bit like your promotion on one of your sites here:
https://nanacast.com/index.php?&req=vp&id=64507
Sorry if I appear condescending, brash and belittling but you’ll notice that many of my posts are worded in such a way. I don’t like to beat around the bush.
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Daniel,
I am glad you found an encoding solution you like. I have been constantly testing solutions since 2003.
My own requirements and preferences are probably much different than yours.
Do you like coke or pepsi? I don’t drink neither.
As for your personal attacks on me…
Well you certainly are not here to make friends so I will make note to ignore you from here on out.
Good luck in your future communications with other people as you are a rude duck bent on wasting people’s time with drivel.
Josh Anderson
CEO, Internet Business Ideas Inc.
https://nanacast.com
https://transparentplayer.com
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https://totalwebvideo.com
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Hey Guys,
I appreciate the discussion. Both Josh and Daniel, you’ve given me good information to help me guide our company in a possibly new direction. I was just curious if using Sorenson was like the difference between Consumer and Professional level. Doesn’t seem like so, but it does look like there are maybe some better options out there for more money.
I love how the Cow creates spirited discussion, but I feel slightly responsible for starting a fight! Take it easy, it’s the Christmas Season…Have a great New Year guys!
-Jason
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Merry Christmas! 🙂
Are we talking DVD?
If by “Big Boys”, you referring to Studio titles like Batman, Star Wars and the like, I can assure you no one uses Squeeze for their compression work. Most of the encodes you see on these discs were done with dedicated systems cost upwards of $60K.
Regardless, I have to agree that, if money was no issue then squeeze would be fairly low on my list as well
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What you are missing is that this thread is about “compression” for “sites” not production for disney dvd distribution 😉
Josh Anderson
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Right…like I said, if money weren’t an issue, Squeeze wouldn’t be my encoder of choice. There are dedicated hardware based systems for this kind of stuff.
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