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  • z-space layering

    Posted by Chip Maynard on September 22, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    I’ve had this problem before and never really figured out why and how to rectify it, hopefully someone here can shed some light.

    Essentially, I’ve got two 3-D layers (pre-comps) and they don’t seem to respect their z-space layering. If I push one comp behind the other it moves back in z-space and gets smaller visually, but won’t go behind the other comp.

    They only seem to respect the layer stack order.

    I’ve tried continually rasterizing, making all the elements within the subcomps 3-D, removing all adjustment layers… nothing seems to help.

    I apologize if this has been answered before, but my searches for “z-space” didn’t return any helpful results.

    Darby Edelen replied 17 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Chip Maynard

    September 22, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    One additional comment…

    If I pull all the individual layers out of the subcomps and drop them into the main comp, the individual layers DO respect z-space. It seems to be a problem with subcomps.

  • Darby Edelen

    September 23, 2008 at 1:05 am

    Do you want all of the layers inside the pre-comp to behave as 3D layers in the parent composition? If so the you need to have the collapse transformation switch enabled.

    Now, on to the potential issues:

    If you have collapse transformations enabled then you cannot apply any effects to the pre-comps or it will break depth sorting (you can apply them to the individual layers inside the pre-comp).

    You cannot apply layer styles to any 3D layers or it will break depth sorting.

    If you have any 2D layers separating the 3D layers this will break depth sorting (if you have 2D layers inside the pre-comps and the pre-comp has collapse transformations enabled, this will break depth sorting).

    Darby Edelen

    NVIDIA
    Santa Clara, CA

  • Chip Maynard

    September 23, 2008 at 2:46 am

    I’ve got some effects applied to layers that are pre-comped inside the main pre-comps. That must be what did it.

    My work-around for this project was to pull all the layers out of all of the pre-comps and put them all in the main comp. Had to do lots of parenting, and it was a little more cumbersome than I’d like, but at least all the layers behaved.

    I didn’t realize that effects applied would break layer sorting. Thanks for the advice.

  • Darby Edelen

    September 23, 2008 at 5:38 am

    [Chip Maynard] “I didn’t realize that effects applied would break layer sorting. Thanks for the advice.”

    Only if the pre-comp has it’s transformations collapsed. If it does, you can still apply the effects to the layers inside the pre-comp. Which should have the same result as what you ended up doing (moving the layers out of the pre-comp).

    Darby Edelen

    NVIDIA
    Santa Clara, CA

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