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Off topic – Viral Video featuring Dogs – Advice needed
Posted by Greg Ball on May 9, 2013 at 6:07 pmWe’re working on a project for a client who markets Dog products. We’re looking at putting dogs into multiple business environments. One thing we would need is to show paws hitting keyboards, grabbing the telephone, using a calculator.
I know we’ve seen shows like SNL with fake dog paws. Does anyone have ideas on where to find those cheap? Thanks.
Bill Davis replied 13 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 16 Replies -
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Nick Griffin
May 9, 2013 at 8:48 pmOff topic?? Aw, c’mon Greg how is this off topic for a forum as wide ranging as Biz-Marketing? It’s not like the COW has a “fake dog paws” forum.
As to Mark’s suggestion that certainly seems like the best place to start. Another would be one of the big prop houses in LA (if any of them still exist). A third option might be to… no wait a minute… had to self-censor on this one.
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Mark Suszko
May 9, 2013 at 8:54 pmThe trick is to get the prop paw to match the breed, and with multiple pets in the shoot, you’re probably better off doing this with an animated CG composite built out of high rez photo samples of the actual animals, IMO. This also gives more anthropomorphic type articulation possibilities than a stiff taxidermy prop.
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Greg Ball
May 10, 2013 at 3:42 amI’m glad to have given you all a laugh today. no answers, but at least I gave you all a smile.
I guess I’ll wait outside a vet’s office with an ax….
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Mark Suszko
May 10, 2013 at 4:01 amSeriously, you can do it using the puppeteering tools in AfterEffects, and some high def imaging of the paws and legs of the actual animals you’re going to use in the video. The leg /paw is assembled from multiple pieces shot at the angles you’re going to need, so pre-vis work is required to get the perspective right. The puppet tool then adds “bones” and joints where they normally go, and this adds the forward kinematics you need and the parent-child relationship of the parts, so when the paw extends, the rest of the leg extends and bends to follow, naturally. It may SOUND complicated, but It really isn’t.
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Tom Sefton
May 10, 2013 at 11:38 amYou could try using the paws of well trained dogs?
What about suggesting that your client gives some free food to a local guide dogs association. It wouldn’t take too long to set up a shot from above with a keyboard and a dogs paw being guided along it. You could also get some hilarious footage for other productions!
edit – after re-reading this I can’t tell how serious I initially was….
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Greg Ball
May 10, 2013 at 5:00 pmThanks guys. This is a low budget viral video, so I don’t think compositing work will do the job. I was just looking for something like you often see on SNL.
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Joseph W. bourke
May 10, 2013 at 5:37 pmHere’s where the guys with budgets seem to get them:
https://www.animalmakers.com/Catalog/dog_parts.php
How about you structure your shoot so that you’re in an extreme close up when the dog paw hits the keyboard? That way, you just use the real dog with the handler’s hand “operating” it.
Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
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Todd Terry
May 10, 2013 at 10:25 pmAWESOME find, Joe… I can definitely see using that company in the future. They look to have great stuff.
I fight this “animal” battle here often. My business partner is not a dog person by any stretch (unlike me, who shares his home with three furry children). Yet he is always concepting these scenes that have complex animal action. He just doesn’t quite fully grasp the limitations of what animals will do… or at least do easily and repeatedly.
He tempers these concepts by his liberal use of the word ALL. As in, “All the dog has to do is jump down off the sofa, go bark twice at the front door, run out the dog door and come back with the ball in his mouth and drop it. That’s ALL he has to do.” Really? That’s all? Since he’ll already be on set, why don’t we have him assemble a jigsaw puzzle while we’re at it?
The last thing he concepted like that had to have a horse nod in agreement. That’s all. The trainer had the horse doing it in rehearsals on command, or at least so she said. Not so much on the shoot day… not once.
I avoid animal actors with a passion… even trained ones (same policy I have for child actors, even trained ones). However, the best actor I ever directed was a dachshund in the spot on this page from several years ago…
https://fantasticplastic.com/portfolio/portfolio01.html
His name was Barkley, and he was an absolute champ. Long shoot day and the little guy never flubbed a take. His only payment was Pupperoni treats.
T2
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Todd Terry
Creative Director
Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
fantasticplastic.com

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