• Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy

  FCP EDL generates with an extra frame

  Posted by Pratul Gaikwad on June 21, 2011 at 2:25 pm

  I am working on a project which is shot on arri alexa, apple proress 422 format. I import the xml from the folders of the data card, as is the standard way to work with the file based recording cameras.
  Now the problem is when i generate an EDL from the seq. at each edit event( each cut), I get an extra frame at the end of the cut, though the start of the cut is shown properly. Its only to do at the end of the cut. record time and sequence time both have an extra frame at the end of each cut.
  e.g

  TITLE: TESTFOREDL
  FCM: NON-DROP FRAME
  *FCM: DIGITAL TV 24P

  001 A001R25Q V C 01:13:41:17 01:13:48:04 01:00:00:00 01:00:06:11
  * FROM CLIP NAME: A001C001_110621_R25Q.MOV
  * COMMENT:

  002 A001R25Q V C 01:16:11:13 01:16:35:03 01:00:06:11 01:00:30:01
  * FROM CLIP NAME: A001C002_110621_R25Q.MOV
  * COMMENT:

  003 A001R25Q V C 01:16:53:20 01:17:41:15 01:00:30:01 01:01:17:20
  * FROM CLIP NAME: A001C002_110621_R25Q.MOV
  * COMMENT:

  004 A001R25Q V C 01:26:52:17 01:27:12:01 01:01:17:20 01:01:37:04
  * FROM CLIP NAME: A001C003_110621_R25Q.MOV
  * COMMENT:

  at the first event my clip ends at – ’01:13:48:03′ and not at ’01:13:48:04′
  likewise 2nd event at – ’01:16:35:02′ and not at -’01:16:35:03′
  3rd event at -’01:17:41:14′ and not at -’01:17:41:15′

  Another problem –
  As you can see, the underlined time code of the sequence is repeating itself in the next edit point as well. I expect an increment of the sequence timecode after every edit point.
  like –

  TITLE: TESTFOREDL
  FCM: NON-DROP FRAME
  *FCM: DIGITAL TV 24P

  001 A001R25Q V C 01:13:41:17 01:13:48:03 01:00:00:00 01:00:06:11
  * FROM CLIP NAME: A001C001_110621_R25Q.MOV
  * COMMENT:

  002 A001R25Q V C 01:16:11:13 01:16:35:02 01:00:06:12 01:00:30:01
  * FROM CLIP NAME: A001C002_110621_R25Q.MOV
  * COMMENT:

  003 A001R25Q V C 01:16:53:20 01:17:41:14 01:00:30:02 01:01:17:20
  * FROM CLIP NAME: A001C002_110621_R25Q.MOV
  * COMMENT:

  Where am i going wrong?, is my understanding correct about the EDL. Help needed.
  

  Michael Gissing replied 14 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  Bouke Vahl

  June 21, 2011 at 3:40 pm

  An outpoint is traditionally ‘up to’, meaning, the frame number is NOT included in the video.

  So, (back in the lineair days), the outpoint you set is NOT included with the insert you make.
  IOW, the first EDL is correct.

  hth,

  Bouke

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  Pratul Gaikwad

  June 21, 2011 at 5:15 pm

  dave and Bouke , thank you very much for quick reply. I hope everything will fall right at the confirm and DI.
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  Pratul Gaikwad

  June 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm

  dave and Bouke , thank you very much for quick reply. I hope everything will fall right at the confirm and DI.
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  Michael Gissing

  June 21, 2011 at 11:59 pm

  All systems that do EDL conforming know how to interpret the numbers. The list is meant to be a code for machines to compile tapes to a master tape so the extra frame is needed to tell the machine to drop out of record at the start of the next frame.

  Smart software people like the team at Shotlister, many years ago, made it possible to display an EDL as graphical tracks and not show the extra frame. I still have Shotlister running on a Linux machine under WINE for those moments when I need to look at an EDL and have it make sense.

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