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Premiere Pro metadata in FCP
Hello!
All I really work on these days is Final Cut studio, but I recently won a copy of Premiere Pro in a competition. I’m working on a documentary, so the speech search feature of Premiere Pro clearly has a lot of attraction for me. I have absolutely no desire to convert to editing in Premiere, but if I were to run my captured interviews for this doc through Premiere’s analysis program, would there be a way to maintain the metadata that contains the transcribed audio in FCP? Even if I couldn’t jump to a specific place of an interview, having the words searchable in the interview would be helpful.
Thanks for any help or advice you can give!
David Sikes
– David Sikes
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I would think you’d be able to preserve them as markers in the clip. Not sure how it works in Premiere, though I do something similar with CatDV which has a verbatim logger for transcriptions.
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David,
Congratulations on your winning.
Any metadata is usually stored within the file itself unless the format does not support embedding (such as MPEG2), then its a sidecar file (.XMP).
If a .MOV was run through speech analysis, the metadata is preserved directly in the .MOV. In Premiere Pro, this metadata would be expressed and viewable. In FCP, because it doesn’t support XMP or currently have a strong metadata workflow, the file will play and perform normally – it will just ignore the metadata.
Unfortunately, unless you want to invest in the 3rd party solution mentioned for FCP, you don’t really have any other options.
Good luck on your documentary.
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David, we created an app from a suggestion by Larry Jordan called Transcriptize that uses an XML file of the transcription exported from Adobe Soundbooth and makes the transcription available in as Markers in a Final Cut Pro XML file.
https://assistedediting.intelligentassistance.com/Transcriptize/
Cheers
Philip
Philip Hodgetts
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Thanks, everyone, for your helpful posts!
@Phillip Hodgetts, that seems like the closest thing I’ve been looking for. However, it requires Soundbooth, which was unfortunately not included with my prize 🙂 But, I will take it under consideration.
Thanks again everyone!
David
– David Sikes
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Really you got Premiere Pro and did’t get soundbooth? You got gipped! 😉 I thought that the bundles was PPro, Soundbooth and Encore when you purchased (or, I thought won) Premiere Pro. So I had assumed you had Soundbooth in that package.
Philip
Philip Hodgetts
President, Intelligent Assistance
AssistedEditing.com Fast First Cuts, Metadata Worfklows
Big Brains for Rent bigbrainsforrent.com
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The bundle I won was PPro, Encore and OnLocation. As I’m an FCP guy (and my program in school is all FCP) it’s currently a pretty useless prize. But I’m glad to have it as an option, and to be able to edit with a second NLE. The semi-accurate transcription service seems pretty handy, especially for documentary work, but its certainly no replacement for a true transcription, however tedious the work is! Your plugin + the Adobe transcription feature seems like a very powerful team, though, for quickly finding footage in FCP.
– David Sikes
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We took the concept further with prEdit, where you actually edit “paper cuts” by editing the text (but we’re doing the video in the background) and that works with PPro without needing Soundbooth (and may very well become much more flexible before the end of the month), but of the two Adobe apps only Soundbooth can export the XML format required by Transcriptize.
So, sorry, you’re out of luck at this point. You should have been able to get some value out of OnLocation if you do any shooting – not that I do any shooting any more.
Philip
Philip Hodgetts
President, Intelligent Assistance
AssistedEditing.com Fast First Cuts, Metadata Worfklows
Big Brains for Rent bigbrainsforrent.com
The New Now – Grow your business – ProAppsTips.com
Personal Blog https://philiphodgetts.com
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