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Red (422 Pro Res Proxy) @ 120fps conversion to 23.98 fps
Hey all so I have 422 pro res Proxy Quicktimes of footage that was shot originally on RED at 120fps and I would like to bring it to to 23.98. What is the best way about going to convert the footage to be running at 23.98? The quicktime itself is 23.98. Is there a process in the conversion from Red to Quicktime where I could be doing this?
Of course I did the mathematical obvious answer in FCP and Used the speed change in FCP and set the clip to 500% without frame blending and my clip looks okay, but I am speed ramping every frame, which leads to jitteriness.
So my question is what is the best way to attack this to do the correct pull down or pull out the frames necessary to make it play smoothly at 23.98?? Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all
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Well, CINEMA TOOLS has a CONFORM option that will turn the 120FPS frame for frame to 23.98. It is what I use all the time, when I am working full res. But when you are doing the offline/online workflow….not sure.
Shane
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so would create your original Pro Res Proxy at 120fps from RED Raw then drop into cinema tools?? or would (in my case) take the 23.98 quicktime into cinema tools to try it? Just trying to figure the best way to go about this since DIT converted all offline files at 23.98 Pro Res Proxy. Whether to go back re convert all needed files at 120fps quicktimes or use the current 23.98 quicktimes into AE and try and pull the frames.
thanks again
Drew
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are you saying you want this footage to playback at normal speed vs slow-mo as shot? You can try to do this in compressor. In video set the frame rate to 23.976, then in Frame Control duration to 500.005% of source. Do short sections and see if higher Rate Conversion is needed.
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Footage right now is in slow motion, but want to playback at normal speed without looking like Saving Private ryan D-DAy Invasion scene. The speed ramp wont help me in pulling the correct frames out if I am correct. thanks michael
Drew
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OOoohhhhh….
Well, if it was shot in slow motion, the only thing you can do to speed it up, AFAIK, is do it in FCP…or go back to the originals and have the DIT use the RED tools to convert it to normal speed.
But 120fps…that’s like 400%…right?
Shane
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the problem you are up against is the the shutter speed is a lot shorter than what 24p is shot at (1/48th of a sec) your footage is probably shot at 1/200 or 1/250th of a sec, which is what gives it Saving Private Ryan look. Other than removing all the extra frames in between the 24 out of 120 you need, you can try speeding up the footage and adding a motion blur or other type of blur to soften the fast shutter speed.
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Hi Drew
It sounds like you have stuff shot at 120 fps, and you want to play it at 120 fps, but in a 23.98 sequence soooo in essence you want to drop out the frames that make it 120 fps but not change the time span…. when you drop the clips into a 24 fps seq, the speed will drop, lesee 120/24=5 so 1/5 of its rate or 20% so you need to speed it up the inverse which is 5 times or 500 percent. (this calculation is based on nice round numbers, the actual figures should be based on the real values)
you will invariably get the “private ryan” look. to get around that you need to do some frame blending and/or motion blur, which will help it look smeary
hope this helps
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