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Insert Edit – Lesson Learned
To all of you who run into frustrations with insert editing…
After wasting a lot of time today to insert a shot, I learned, 1)FCP doesn’t like it if there is a transition in the video OR audio at your in or out points (it doesn’t matter if you’re only doing one track, it still doesn’t let you do it.) 2)if you mark and in and out on both the source and the edit to tape window you’ll end up with 1 frame of black after your insert.
Yes, I know it only takes 3 points to make an edit, but I thought adding the other out would perhaps solve problem number 1.
I was getting the 1 sec duration edit or aborted edit when I attempted an insert where there was an audio fade up underneath. Apple, when will you fix this stupid bug!?!
Andrea Stewart
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#1 is not a bug. You might to familiarize yourself with how the auto-select and linked selection buttons work.
#2 is also not a bug. When you set an out point that way it includes the frame you are currently looking at, so the out point needs to be after it. This is consistent with the default behavior on other NLE’s like Avid.
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Make it a practice NEVER to insert edit on transitions. Only hard cuts. And yes, this means that if you have one 2 second shot in the middle of a 1 min section that is full of dissolves, you need to insert edit the entire section, from cut to cut.
This has been the standard practice since…well…forever. Back in the tape to tape days. Avid doesn’t let you insert between edits. Well, it might, but it is bad practice to do so. Only on cuts.
Shane
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Oi…
back in the tape days it was common practice to do inserts wherever you like them.
The only way to do a series of dissolves.
On a normal editor, you just mark in on the recorder, the player auto adjusted it’s inpoint so you could pick up the shot wherever you liked…
(This was called ‘match frame edit’)And Avid lets you set inpoint/outpoints anywhere, and it works accurate.
Bouke
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Sorry….after rereading your post, I think I misuderstood your problems a bit.
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Perhaps I was unclear. The issue is when Editing to Tape, not in the timeline. So no, the auto-select buttons do not come into play.
And I was only doing a video insert only. There was a fade up on the audio track. I don’t see why that should come into play, if I’m not editing audio. To me, that is a bug.
Shane, yes I agree. I try to make it a practice to insert edit only between cuts, even if its just one frame I have to fix in the middle. However, with frame accuracy, technically this should not be necessary, just good operating procedure based on editing tape to tape for those of us who used to actually touch tape in the old days.
As for the 4th point in the edit… was simply my poor logic trying to figure out why FCP wouldn’t accept the insert edit. Afterall, it does do some rather illogical things sometimes.
Andrea Stewart
Producer/Editor/Director – Owner
Germane Creative LLC -
This was in the middle of an AUDIO dissolve? But video straight cut? Hmmm…odd.
You do have reference feeding both the deck and the capture card, right?
Shane
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[Andrea Stewart] “Perhaps I was unclear. “
No…I was just tired and should have refrained from posting. Sorry if my completely wrong answer was condescending.
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