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anamorphic pal widescreen 16.9 prset
Dear Great Experts.
Is there a preset in fcp for widescreen 16.9 anamorphic for pal?
Broadcasting over the internet.
Greater details if needed:
I don’t know much, but will tell you what i do know, and probably alot will be unnecessary to tell, but I would need to be more of an expert in this area to edit what I will be writing here…lol, thanks so much:
We make animations, or slide shows movies in After Effects in a 1024 x 576, Preset: Pal D1/DV Wide Screen Square Pixel, Pixel Aspect Ration: Square format.
Then render with output module settings in After Effect using: ‘stretch’ to 720 x 576, locked to 5.4 aspect, Pal D1/DV, which squishes the final movie horizontally, as you can see. This is to get, as I understand it, the anamorphic element needed (for the method in which it is broadcast, ie, thru Airbox and Octoshape).
Then it is compressed with Compressor: This setting unsquishes it horizontally putting it back into a 16.9 ration, but in a smaller size, 720 x 405, and makes it into a special type of mpeg 2 format which is called a ‘program stream’ for broadcasting over ‘Airbox’ which the viewer also has a choice of using ‘octoshape’ for viewing. This puts the video and audio together as 1 element.
Would like to bypass After Effects and just do movie in FCP with an output that will accomplish the above (see summary below too). I assume that the compression with Compressor will still be necessary to get the specialized mpeg 2 format need for the ‘airbox’ broadcasting.
Summary: Would like to produce a fcp output that allows for the 1024 x 576 size, pal widescreen, anamorphic and then can be compressed to the special mpeg 2 program stream which ends up with the 720 x 405 (16.9).
Side Note: We are told we need to start out with the larger size of 1024 x 576 for better quality. Our video dept would prefer that we start out with HD size of 1920 x 1080 but our equipment cant process files that large, so video dept said ok to do the 1024 size.
Ok, Wow, if you are still with me, I thank you a million times over and wonder what you think?
Lots and lots of thanks dear ones,
With most sincere thanks,
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FCP has easy setups for PAL 720 x 576 anamorphic. Use those with ProRes codec and then have Compressor make the mpeg2 with the pixel aspect you desire.
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Dear Michael,
Thank you so very much for this quick response and the expert attention…
Very much appreciated….(-:
Novice here…
Am running fcp 6.0.6
When choosing Easy Set Ups, what would one choose for:
Format:
Use:Up until now we have worked with OfflineRT PAL
Thanks again so much.Sincerely again,
Hope__________________________________________________
Life is here to enjoy.
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The standard Easy Setups depend on what sort of I/O cards you have. In my case I have a Kona3 so there is an Easy Setup in SD for ProRes 720 x 576 anamorphic using the Kona to output to an external monitor and control a VTR via RS422 etc.
If you have no I/O cards, there still should be an Easy Setup for SD ProRes 720 x 576 anamorphic PAL, 25 fps. Check your Easy Setups and let me know if one like that exists. If not then we can create one and save it for future use.
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Dear Michael,
Thank you again for this kind and thorough explanation.
(we have been using photo jpeg 86%)how would we get from graphics of 1024 x 576 finally compressed to 720 x 405 by using the 720 x 576 format?
Have chosen the ones below that seems closest.
Format: Pal
Use: DV Pal Anamorphic
produces a 720 x 576
doesn’t mention the PRO RES; no mention of frame rate
Or
Use: DVCPRO – Pal 48 kHz Anamoorphic
no mention of frame rate
or Use: DV PAL 24 @ 25Also could choose:
Format: Apple Pro Res
Use: (all options greyed out, no choice)
sets it all at:
1440 x 1080 24p/60ialso:
Format: Photo-JPEG
Use: OfflineRT PAL AnamorphicThis give the 720×576 size, but doesn’t mention the PRO RES.
Format: offlineRT
Use: OfflineRT PAL Anamorphic
720 x 576
What do you think?Thank you again for your time and attention.
Sincerely,
Hope__________________________________________________
Life is here to enjoy.
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You will need to create a custom easy Setup.
Select the PAL DV anamorphic. Open up Audio/Video settings > summary tab. Change the sequence settings to ProRes 422 PAL 48khz anamorphic.
As you are not capturing footage, change the capture preset to Generic and the device control to Uncontrolled device. that will stop it nagging for a firewire device like a DV camera or deck.
Unless you have a video playback card (Decklink, Kona etc) select none for video playback.
Save this as a custom easy setup with a really usefull name and description like ProRes 422 PAL 48khz anamorphic 720 x 576. Voila
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Dear Michael,
Again, thanks so very much.
Ok, opened the Easy Setup and selected Format: Pal, Use: DV-PAL Anamorphic
Under Audio/Video settings > summary tab, there is an Apple ProRes 422 Pal 48 kHz, but not anamorphic. There are a gazillion other Apple ProRes 422 options. There are no choices for ProRes that are anamorphic. Maybe it’s because of the fcp 6.0.6 verison?
The only options for sequence settings for PAL that are anamorphic are:
DV Pal 48 kHz Anamorphic
DV50 PAL 48 kHz Anamorphic
DVCPRO – PAL 48 kHz AnamorphicIs there any hope….lol
Everything else that was mentioned to change was done.
What do you think?
Most sincerely and gratefully,
Hope__________________________________________________
Life is here to enjoy.
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Every system is different depending on I/O cards and versions.
Choose ProRes 422 720 x 576. Then go to the sequence settings tab and duplicate, naming it as anamorphic then open it up. Check the anamorphic box and close.
You now have you ProRes422 PAL 48 Khz Anamorphic easy setup which you then save as a custom setup.
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Dear Michael,
Thank you again so much. Appreciate hugely the kind patience and clear thinking and great explanations.
Ok, did all mentioned and it works great.
This is so incredibly cool! I’m seeing in fcp that even tho the dimensions are the 720 x 576, and the exported quicktime movie is that size too, when you actually view the canvas and video in fcp it is the large 1024 x 576 size, showing the 1024 x 576 graphic perfectly. Hallelujah. Amazing!!!! This must be the specialty of the Pro Res setting. Wow!
Compressor: Apple/Formats/MPEG-2/Program Steam, it produces the same size movie: 720 x 576. Want to change so output is 720 x 404.
Can’t see anyway to do that, or to choose/change to anamorphic. You said the make it the pixel aspect desired. Not sure how to do.
Any ideas?
The 1024 must be the stretched version meaning the rectangular pixel view of the 720 which is the square pixel view? It is the anamorphic view?
Noticing in the canvas view, sequence tab, there is a blue horizontal strip along the right edge of the picture. It is not there in the Viewer window, video tab. Is that suppose to be there? Is it to remind you that this is not the real size of the canvas (1024 x 576)
Really appreciate so much. One could tell from the succinct, clear answers that a highly professional person had come to the rescue here.
Confession: Looked up Michael Gizzing on the internet, and see that he has a long list of credits on imdb.com, plus tons of other Google Search listings.
Feeling so honored to get this superb attention.
All gratitude,
Hopep.s. Also changed field dominance to None as it goes over the internet. That’s the setting that we usually use. Hope it is OK?
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Life is here to enjoy.
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Hope,
Happy to help. Yes your 1024 graphics will display correctly in the anamorphic timeline as they are the square pixel version of the 720 anamorphic as you have realised. Not sure what the blue line is. Does it show up on the output file?
In Compressor, you can change the pixel aspect to 720 x 405 which is true 16:9 square pixel by going to the geometry tab in the inspector and setting the frame size you want. Once you have your favorite settings, save that to use for all exports from this FCP setting. Do some tests.
If your source clips are all progressive, then yes, set field dominance to none and make sure the clips are also set to none.
If you Googled Michael Gizzing, then that is someone else. I am Gissing and yes I have some credits and enough knowledge to be a total nuisance sometimes.
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Hi again Michael (-:,
Actually did the search for Gissing….Very impressive, sir.
Also, see that you are downunder….A dear Aussie. Lovely. (And that is the little Tasmanian Devil….wonderful)Compressor: Tried to change the settings for h and w, but it wouldn’t let me in Geometry. It’s grayed out. But never mind, I did do a few things and now it is working. Hurray!!!! Coming out quite nicely. I just made sure to not leave the Compressor setting on Automatic for the pixel aspect ratio and actually set it like you said and all is well now, plus other things actually set and didn’t leave on Auto.
The blue line/border is not showing up in the final output. Thank you for asking. It is about 1/4 in. wide or 1/2 a finger wide, in the canvas view only.
Yes, clips are set to none. Thanks.
Ok, so the rectangular-ness must be vertically then. Ah yes. Very good.
Well, great one, thank you again for all your input and kindnesses… and only helpful is the word we would use for your great knowlege…helpful and wonderful!
Thank you so, so much.
All the best,
Hope__________________________________________________
Life is here to enjoy.
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