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  • Digibeta LAYERS?

    Posted by Cory Caplan on June 29, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Just idiot check me on this one– I have a agency client who is telling me that a digi tape they gave me has “layers” so I should be able to pull a super off without rotoscoping. Resisting the urge to say the things that are actually in my head– there’s no other flavor of digi that offers this, right? Some sort of multi-track video layer? There’s no clean version on the tape, obviously…

    /not familiar with sx, other flavors etc.. who knows…

    Cory

    Cory Caplan replied 16 years, 10 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Peter Wiggins

    June 29, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    It hasn’t got layers, just one video track.

    They may be getting a bit confused if the supers were put on with preread which enables you to add, but not takeway video.

    Bottom line is you cannot unpick it

    Peter

  • Mark Raudonis

    June 29, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    [Cory Caplan] “Resisting the urge to say the things that are actually in my head”

    Go ahead and let it out! Your client is a technical moron and doesn’t know what they’re talking about!

    No such thing as “layers” on a video tape. Once an image is committed to video, it is what it is. There’s no way to “pick apart” the elements that made up the image. That’s why we save and archive the projects!

    Mark

  • Cory Caplan

    June 29, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Thanks. It was so crazy, and they were so sure, there was this little voice of paranoia in the back of my head– and though I ‘grew up’ around a digibeta linear suite, I never actually worked it. I know there were lots of ‘tricks’ but this just seemed insane.

  • Tom Matthies

    June 29, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Although…
    Even though there aren’t layers” on a Digibeta tape, scan through the tape and make sure that your client hasn’t put graphics elements AND the alpha channel elements somewhere on the tape as well. In that case, you CAN use the clips as mattes to pull a key from the material on the tape.
    Maybe this is what meant, but just didn’t explain it very well.
    Just a thought.
    Tom

  • Todd Dalton

    June 29, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    Oooh, good thinking! I was with Mark on this one and had already played the whole scenario through in my head! :)))

    I did once had to listen to clients tell me that FHA safe areas would vanish once Mac’s had gone over to Intel chips “then we’ll all be the same”…..

    And a colleague told me that an agency client had said to him that the rotoscopes were being done by Matt and Phil. Honestly, that’s what he said! :))

  • Ken Jones

    June 29, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    [Tom Matthies] “scan through the tape and make sure that your client hasn’t put graphics elements AND the alpha channel elements somewhere on the tape as well”

    Definitely worth investigating. When I used to master to 1″ I would put a lot of “layers” at the end of the master tape. Of course, there were a lot of layers on other tapes as well…

  • Rafael Amador

    June 29, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    As Tom suggest, I would have a look in the end of the program.
    Same times people records the mates for postprod in the end.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Cory Caplan

    June 29, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Good call. But no love. These are prefab ‘slates’ from the client’s client’s client’s company. And that’s all that’s on the tape. Plus, the elements they want removed are from the original composite, generated by some 3D/motion graphics house, so we’d really have to go further up the chain… This was all about CYA for me.

    Thanks everyone!

    Cory

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