Creative Communities of the World Forums

The peer to peer support community for media production professionals.

Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Up-converting 1080i to 4K in FCP

  • Up-converting 1080i to 4K in FCP

    Posted by Christopher Campbell on April 30, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Hello folks. First time poster. Thanks in advance for reading this post:

    I’m running an Intel Mac Pro with:
    Mac OSX 10.5.6
    2x 3Ghz Quad-Core Xeon
    8Gb Ram
    AJA Kona3 Card
    FCP Studio 2

    My client has a 1080i 4:2:2 Uncompressed QT file and wants to know if it can be up-converted to “4k” for overhead wall projection (apparently their projector setup can utilize a 4k resolution). Can FCP even do this form of up-conversion and if so, what is the workflow/output settings for a 4K file when exporting from FCP? Does anyone know of some useful software packages/project presets/websites that will help me establish a workflow and address what I am afraid will be numerous stumbling blocks? Have I got this totally wrong and should I be using Cinema Tools thus scraping my FCP idea entirely (LOL)?

    Thanks for helping me sort this out.

    Gary Adcock replied 17 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Christopher Campbell

    April 30, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Thanks for the info. Yes, After Effects I have.

    I’m running the Abode Production suite CS3. I suppose this now makes this an After Effects posting , but what suggestions do you have for taking a Quicktime 1080i and up-converting through AE?

  • Rafael Amador

    April 30, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Hi Christopher,
    FC can not manage nothing bigger than 2K.
    AE, Shake?
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Chris Borjis

    April 30, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    honestly, they might be much better off just feeding the 4k
    projector the 1080i signal.

    a device of that complexity and expense should be able to
    scale it equally as well or better than a software upscaling could do.

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 30, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    [Christopher Campbell] “My client has a 1080i 4:2:2 Uncompressed QT file and wants to know if it can be up-converted to “4k” for overhead wall projection (apparently their projector setup can utilize a 4k resolution).”

    Quite honestly your client will gain nothing from this process. The image is not going to look any better just because it’s blown up to 4k.

    The only really correct way to do this is to take it to a film lab / telecine house and have them do the transfer in hardware. But again, it’s a waste of time in my opinion, the client gains nothing in the end. They’ll probably get great results just having the projector double or triple the image size if they really want that.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    Read my Blog!

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!

  • Christopher Campbell

    April 30, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Right on. Good info, everyone.

    My fear was that some form of rotten blocking or terrible pixelation would occur in the software conversion process. But what you guys said makes perfect sense. Sounds like they need to examine their hardware and see what can be done to blow up the file on their end as opposed to using a software encoder superfluously.

    Thanks for the info, guys. Much appreciated.

  • Rafael Amador

    May 1, 2009 at 1:18 am

    [Christopher Campbell] “My fear was that some form of rotten blocking or terrible pixelation would occur in the software conversion process”
    The same degradation that when you blow-up a picture 4 times.
    The picture can look OK. Applications like Shake have a few filters for upsizing.
    But to make this upsizing in software with good quality even with the most powerful Mac would take long, long time.
    As Chris and Walter point, probably is better let the projector make de job.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Gary Adcock

    May 1, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    [Christopher Campbell] “Sounds like they need to examine their hardware and see what can be done to blow up the file on their end as opposed to using a software encoder superfluously. “

    Yes

    especially since FCP has a 2K frame size limit.

    the only app on the desktop that truly supports a 4K frame size is AE
    .

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

    Inside look at the IoHD
    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

We use anonymous cookies to give you the best experience we can.
Our Privacy policy | GDPR Policy