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  • Logging and Capturing unnecessary audio tracks

    Posted by Daniel Carlin-weber on February 25, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Hello all,
    I’ll start with our setup:

    Final Cut Pro 6
    Aja Kona 3 board
    G5 MacPro tower

    I work in a facility that is constantly generating new content and one of my responsibilities is digitizing and creating library backups of all that content. We are having difficulty figuring out a little trick the FCP capture tool throws at us every once in a while…

    Sometimes when we open the Log and Capture window and begin to log, we will realize that we are logging 16 tracks of audio, without selecting those tracks. Instead of ammending the spots we have logged, we start from square one, select just track 1 and 2 and re-log.

    It’s frustrating that the tool will sparatically set itself back to all 16 tracks. We haven’t found the trigger for it yet. We log SD spots and HD spots through 9-pin remote control and sometimes must switch between HD and SD on the fly. Doing so doesn’t seem to switch the capture tool back to 16, nor does restarting FCP, the machine itself, or anything else.

    The majority of the work that is mastered in this facility is in a stereo mix and unless we need to capture more tracks, we only select 1 and 2.

    Is there anyway to force FCP to default capture tracks 1 and 2 instead of defaulting to 16?

    Any help would be most appreciated and I thank you for the time!!!

    Philip Timm replied 17 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    February 25, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Anytime you switch to DV or DVCAM or any other firewire type of input and then back to the Kona, the audio tracks will default back to 16. This is a thing with FCP, not the Kona board. It seems to just set itself to the maximum audio tracks available.

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  • Daniel Carlin-weber

    February 25, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    Thanks for the quick response!

    We seldom use DV formats and never use firewire to control, but are there others that trigger the same response?

    We commonly switch between AJA Kona3: 29.97 525i 8-bit and AJA kona3: 29.97 1080i 10-bit.
    Aja kona3: 29.97 Sony VTR B is the most common control we use.

  • Ken Jones

    February 26, 2009 at 4:46 am

    I shoot on HDV and use an HVR-1500 to capture using HD-SDI and RS-422.
    I used Media Manager to “offline” a sequence for re-capture and it assigned 16 channels of audio to all of the master clips. Go figure.

  • Daniel Carlin-weber

    February 26, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    “I shoot on HDV and use an HVR-1500 to capture using HD-SDI and RS-422.
    I used Media Manager to “offline” a sequence for re-capture and it assigned 16 channels of audio to all of the master clips. Go figure.”

    There must be some way to defeat that kind of logic.
    It can’t be something that FCP just randomly does (I hope…).

    This is also a difficult query to word.
    I can’t seem to find answers for this kind of problem anywhere else.

  • David Heidelberger

    February 26, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    You can export a batch list and tweak it a bit in Excel to correct this after you’ve logged it incorrectly, but before you’ve captured. That only takes a few minutes. There’s a way to do it using XML, too, but I find FCP XMLs to just be impossibly complicated.

    I wrote a program that can batch strip excess audio tracks from Quicktime movies after you’ve captured them in mere seconds, but unfortunately, there’s a bug that came up somewhere around FCP 6.0.2 that makes it impossible to reconnect to these modified clips, so I’ve taken the program down. Hopefully, they’ll correct in the next Final Cut and I’ll repost the program.

    I agree, it’s annoying to keep having to disable all those tracks on capture.

  • Philip Timm

    March 16, 2009 at 11:10 am

    This is a long-running issue for me & my department.

    We have 8 Mac Pro’s with Kona 3 cards and we digitize off of HDV and digibeta.

    We’ve noticed that sometimes you can go in to the Clip Settings of the Log & Capture window and it still only has 1-2 selected whilst, at other times, it’ll have 1-16 selected.

    As has been said, there probably is some logic to it, but I don’t know what it is.

    Whilst it isn’t anything that can be stored in an Easy Setup (as far as I can figure!) I guess it’s the job of the digitizer to check his/her system before starting to capture!

    Phil

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