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help with changing easy setups to ingest HDV?
Here is a a post I made in the HVX forum. I will continue my question after this entry.
I have FCP 5.1 and I am trying to learn the ins and out of HD, but I am having very frustrating problems trying to get HD into my timeline without having to render.
I first bought in 720p24 and realized that I didn’t need audio channels 3 and 4. The clip dropped into the timeline without rendering. I thougt I would try my luck and shot in 1080i 24p. I set the easy setup to both HDV23 1080p 24 and also tried DVC pro HD 1080pa24 and I still have to render the clip when dropped into the timeline.
This is why I haven’t been doing too much HD. It is too frustrating. Can anyone give me some pointers on how to bring any HD footage in I need. I wished I would upgrade to FCP 6, but money is not an option and i need this to work.
###I am starting to see a pattern every time I change the easy setup. I notice that I have to close and relaunch FCP every time I change a setting. Even after I have closed a session, then set another codec in easy setup, I have to relaunch for it to give me the screens with the specific aspect rations.
Is there something I am doing wrong here. I thought you were able to close a project, open a new one and set the easy setup and then start ingesting P2 data.
Someone help me if I have this all worng
G5, 1.7, 4MB RAM, 30″cine, G4, 1.6 2MB RAM, Mbox, Neumann TLM-103, FCP HD 5. Pro Tools, Adobe Creative Suite, Reason 3.0, Macromedia Studio, ProAnimator, HVX200 with Firestore v4.0
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I can’t remember if this applies to FCP 5, but in FCP 6:
Drag your footage from your bin into an empty sequence. If the sequence settings do not match the footage settings (i.e. frame size, frame rate, codec, etc.), FCP will ask (this is from memory and is not exact) “The Sequence settings do match your footage settings. Would you like to change the sequence settings to match your footage settings?”
This is how I ALWAYS configure my sequence settings. It seems to be foolproof.
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well the hvx records dvcpro-hd not hdv.
try this easy setup: DVCPRO-HD 1080i 29.97
see what happens
the sequence should be set for 1080P 23.98
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Ken, i don’t think it asked that back in version 5
Nelson, as Chris mentioned, P2 and HVX is not at all HDV, but DVCPRO HD and has its own setup.
you can always scroll the columns in the browser (‘view as list’ mode) to read exactly what format your clip is in and mach it in your setups.
today upgrading to fcp 6 is not a very expensive step. you should strongly consider it. it will make your life easier and on the not-that-long run will save you time and money.
what brought you to post this question would probably not even be an issue in fcp 6.
maybe you don’t like working with HD because your editing app is a bit old?
Hector Berrebi
Schibber Group
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As others have said, it’s likely you may be working with the wrong Easy Setup. Everything in your sequence has to match EXACTLY the settings on your clip. And FCP5.1 doesn’t have that nice feature where it will change the settings for you.
However, you don’t need FCP6 to make life beautiful. I’ve edited HVX200 footage on PowerPC macs with FCP 5.1 just fine. The key is to not shoot 1080 anything. Any G5 machine will choke on that footage even during playback, end of story. 720p24, you’ll be fine. I routinely used to edit 720p24 on a Powerbook G4 with 1.5GB of RAM, no rendering needed. What’s the need to shoot 1080 anyway?I would recommend using FCP Rescue (make sure to download the right version for your FCP) to help in zonking the preferences but also storing preferences once you hit on the right easy setup. Sounds like it will make your life much easier. If you stick with 720p, you should hit a good stride.
For 720p24 footage-
If you run the easy setup for HD, 23.98, DVCProHD – 720p24, you should be good to go.
Frame size- 960×720, aspect ratio same
Pixel aspect ratio- HD 960×720
Field Dominance- None
Editing timebase- 23.98
Compressor- DVCPRO HD 720p60 (counterintuitive with all the 24p business going on, I know, but trust FCP).Try that out, I have a feeling you’ll be relieved 🙂
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thanks guys for all your help. I have FCP rescue on the G5. I will load it on my G4 since I can plug p2 cards directly into the slot.
I just need to get up to speed. I haven’t had to shoot a lot of HD and now there is more of a demand for it. I also have the academic version of FCP 5. I want to upgrade bad, but money is really tight right now. As an instructor, I could probably get the FCP6 academic version….but I am teaching on an as needed basis and tutoring in voice. I will eventually have to upgrade to the retail version to make further upgrades. Just not sure what to do right now. I had to buy a libec ls 55, just so my shots would be smoother. Anyway, if you guys here of anyone unloading FCP6 at a good deal I would be interested.
Thanks again for all your help.
G5, 1.7, 4MB RAM, 30″cine, G4, 1.6 2MB RAM, Mbox, Neumann TLM-103, FCP HD 5. Pro Tools, Adobe Creative Suite, Reason 3.0, Macromedia Studio, ProAnimator, HVX200 with Firestore v4.0
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BTW, i am still leaning the finder points of the HVX200. Since 720 records four channels of audio, can I set the camera to record only on two as a default? I am going to look though the manual, but sometimes you guys have already been through it.
G5, 1.7, 4MB RAM, 30″cine, G4, 1.6 2MB RAM, Mbox, Neumann TLM-103, FCP HD 5. Pro Tools, Adobe Creative Suite, Reason 3.0, Macromedia Studio, ProAnimator, HVX200 with Firestore v4.0
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Not that I’m aware of, total PITA, but just disable tracks 3 and 4 when you start punting stuff to your timeline.
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Nicole,
With due respect, I edit 1080 ProRes on my 2 gig G5 all the time. It does NOT choke on playback. It may be your drives are not up to handeling 1080 footage, but the G5 has no problem with it at all.
Have a wonderful day.
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[Chris Poisson] “I edit 1080 ProRes on my 2 gig G5 all the time. It does NOT choke on playback.”
Me too!!!
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
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Last time I tried, it was 1080 DVCProHD off the HVX. Maybe it was a drive issue (was on my RAIDed SATA…), but it was mostly to see what would happen since we deal with 720p24 95% of the time. Then the new MacPro booted the G5 and I haven’t looked back 🙂
ETA- either way, I don’t believe one of the reponses about upgrading to FCS6 is necessary!
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