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  • Economical way to copy DVCPRO HD to a drive?

    Posted by David Wright on December 24, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    I shoot with a Panasonic HDX900 and need to find the most economical way to capture footage and then select clips to pass onto a library. I need to send them uncompressed QT movies on a drive, starting out the process with DVCPRO HD tapes. Is my only way to get FCP or is there a more economical way? I can go firewire out of the camera.

    Thanks

    David
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    Rafael Amador replied 17 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    December 24, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    If you have the gear already to capture, I don’t understand the question…?

    As far as I know, the only way to create QT movies from tape is to capture them through the log and transfer window.

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    December 24, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    First off, FCP is not really all that expensive. Especially when you consider what’s included. Especially when you factor in the cost of a deck.

    If you use an AJA capture card, you can use their VTR Xchange. But you’ll have no efficient way to sort and organize your clips.

    If you have an Intel Mac, you can use Premier for $800.

    Arnie
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  • Rafael Amador

    December 25, 2008 at 1:45 am

    The cheapest way is using QT Pro Movie Recorder to capture your FW.
    Rafael

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  • Bob Zelin

    December 25, 2008 at 2:16 am

    Ooo, ooo – I know the answer to this question –

    you don’t have the equipment (like a FCP system or capture card), but you have to transfer your camera media to a drive to deliver a finished product (a hard drive with quicktime media) so it can be used in an edit sessions. You don’t want to buy all this stuff – so how can you do it ?

    HIRE AN EDITOR WITH EQUIPMENT for a few hours. Get a crowbar, crack open your wallet, and hire one of the countless wonderful, talented and well equiped editors on this list (one surely near you), who will be MORE than happy to transfer your media onto a hard drive. This is called SUB CONTRACTING, and guess what – we all do it. And I bet you anything that if you own a HDX-900, then you have friends and associates that own an FCP system.

    “You mean, I have to PAY somebody to do this – then I won’t get all the money for the job – and I need the money ” –

    welcome to business.

    Bob Zelin

  • David Wright

    December 26, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Having been in the business 20 years I guess I have worked with an editor or two, so will not comment on the last post. I have several close friends that are great editors but sadly can’t afford to have them travel to the locations I work in. They have recommended FCP but before making the investment in a program that does way more than I need, I wanted to check for alternatives. Does n’t seem an unreasonable request.

    I asked the original question as I travel to remote locations and need to manage footage in the field and send it back. Ideally I would like to go firewire out from the camera to a laptop (running FCP or alternative), capture the footage, add metadata and export QT movies as requested by the library.

    I would love to be able to send the tapes to an editor or straight to the library, but the circumstances do not allow that.

    Thanks

  • Walter Biscardi

    December 26, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    [David Wright] “I asked the original question as I travel to remote locations and need to manage footage in the field and send it back. Ideally I would like to go firewire out from the camera to a laptop (running FCP or alternative), capture the footage, add metadata and export QT movies as requested by the library. “

    Ok, what you’re saying here and in your original post are two different things. In the original post you said you needed to send “Uncompressed QT files.” That implies Uncompressed HD footage which will require a capture card like an AJA Kona board.

    Here you want to capture Firewire from the camera which implies you want to capture DVCPro HD files. This is easily done with a laptop, however I’ve never tried to control a camera doing this. We have two Panasonic 1400 decks for this.

    If it was me, I would simply capture the DVCPro HD files and dump them to a hard drive. Then the library just has the original DVCPro HD footage that matches the original.

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    December 26, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    [David Wright] “I asked the original question as I travel to remote locations and need to manage footage in the field and send it back. Ideally I would like to go firewire out from the camera to a laptop (running FCP or alternative), capture the footage, add metadata and export QT movies as requested by the library. “

    David, that’s a little different than your original post. Take a look at Scopebox and Veescope. Both have direct capture options. I don’t know about what kind of metadata they can add.

    Arnie
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  • David Wright

    December 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Thanks Arnie, these programs look good but I tried the demo versions and don’t seem to be able to get them to talk with the HDX900. I am guessing the correct codecs are not included. I will try again today.

  • Rafael Amador

    December 29, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Hi David,
    As I said in the top of the thread you only need QT Pro and a fast HD.
    Plug the FW of your camera and open a “New Movie Recorder”. Set it in “Native Device” in the Preferences.
    You can record your DVCProHD direct to the HD.
    Same than FC but without Log Capture. just “Capture Now”.
    You can use also QT Pro to select and edit your footage without any loose in quality.
    US$ 29.99
    Cheers,
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Arnie Schlissel

    December 29, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    I’m not sure, but you may need FCP to get the DVCPro HD codec. Check on Panasonic’s web site.

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

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