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Edge issues with logo
Hey guys, I searched through the forum, but couldn’t find anything that worked so far for this issue. I am doing a spot for a local Toyota dealer and want to use the Toyota logo at the end of the spot. I have gotten a AI EPS copy of the logo so I can vectorize in AE and not worry about scaling. My problem is the curves in the logo are murder in NTSC and look like crap. None of the edge blur filters I have tried have worked (maybe I am doing them wrong) and I haven’t seen any other filter that would blur the edges just enough to make it smooth without looking really blurring. The other option I thought of was making the spot in 30P and then coverting it to 29.97 (that’s worked sometimes in the past for other issues.) What do you all do for such issues?
Thanks,
Matthew Rogers
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Yeah, I have that turned on already. The problem is the edges from that are so sharp, that they are jagged.
Matthew
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what are the edge problems (aliasing, field issues…)? where are you seeing them (ie, ram previews, nle…)? and, what is the logo doing (static, scaling, slow move…)?
if your logo is slowly scaling or drifting and you are rendering to fields (actually you can get problems without fields, but fields amplifies this), then you are seeing problems as the edges of the logo are getting rasterized from one field (or pixel) to the next.
i don’t have a great way to just remove this asside from experimenting with new rates of change (scale, position…), although cranking up the motion blur can help. bluring the alpha slightly may help if the problem is only the outer edges.
Kevin Camp
Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW -
I am pretty sure (99.9%) that the logo I have is a vector logo, as it scales perfectly, has vector lines in AI, and is in the RGB workspace. Here are two images of what I am doing with it:
https://www.macvilleproductions.com/picture1.png
https://www.macvilleproductions.com/picture2.pngIt looks fairly good on the screen, but when I preview it on my production monitor, that’s when it looks like crap. I know that this is an issue with graphics in NTSC, but I’ve been lucky and never had to deal with it before.
Matthew
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3 things to check:
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what happens if you “Place” the .AI file into photoshop? Do you still have those issues? If not, “place” it into photoshop at the highest scale you need and then import the psd (now a rasterized pixel file) in After effects.
Sometimes, I think continuous rasterize can give those edge problems, especially when you are scaling or panning…
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go to interpret footage, more options, check anti alias settings. Make sure they are set to better not faster.
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Are you seeing these issues during RAM previews? What kind of video card are you using to send the signal to your monitor?
I’m using a Decklink card for previews and text in RAM previews looks horrible. I import the same footage into FCP and the problem is gone during playback. Is this a Decklink limitation? Or an AE setting?
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