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Cheap Trick: Live at Budokan: 2″ Quad Scan Lines on DigiBeta Dub
“Hello There Ladies and Gentlemen! Are you ready to rock?”
I’m color correcting “Cheap Trick: Live at Budokan” which is pretty awesome. It was thought that the tapes were lost, but they were recently uncovered.
The original tape was shot in 1978 on 2″ Quad. The dub was made to Digibeta, which is what I’m working with.
There are visible horizontal scan lines all over the place. Any ideas on how to treat these?
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
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Can you post a still?
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What am I looking at there? I don’t see much expect darkness.
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The still is gone – can you repost?
Ben Insler
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Cannot get the image to embed although I coded it properly. Jeremy, you can see the image? I know it is rather dark, but you cannot see those scan lines?
Here’s the image’s address;
Fortunately, it’s not that prevalent. Only a couple of shots in the beginning. Actually, the footage looks pretty good for being so old.
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I see the lines – looks kinda like brown muddy streaks. Could be a number of things. Bad transfer deck. Old dirty tape. Either way, if the lines are consistent (as in not moving at all) you might be able to design a color correction mask around those lines that allows you to darken and grade only those lines slightly to match the rest of the image. This is not a great idea, and is always better in theory, but it might get you a bit closer to a balanced shot. Otherwise, I’d say use it as a style to show the antiquity of the footage and the fortune that it survived at all. Or just don’t use those shots – thankfully it’s not on all the footage.
Best,
Ben
Ben Insler
Editor
Telemark Films -
I saw the image, but really it’s like a light little blob on a bunch of dark. I leveled it up in photoshop and I definitely see a lot of analog noise, but not scan lines.
Do you have a better one? Sorry man.
https://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/JerGark/LiveatBudokanScanLinecopy.jpg
Jeremy
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The lines move, so I think I will just have to live with it. I haven’t started grading yet, so I may just crush the blacks a little on that shot. I noticed that they show up on Robin’s white suit when the lights are bright too. That’s gonna be another challenge, I’ll see what I can do.
Right now, it’s one long tape and I need to add edit every cut so I can re-grade it. It’s usually tedious, but this time it’s kind of fun to see footage from this old concert.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
You don’t see those horizontal lines? They are really noticeable when you brought up the levels.
The strobing on all the highlights is proving to be a bigger issue now. It’s most noticeable on the wide shots of the spot lights and medum and CU shots with the white suit.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
Okay, those big huge lines look like analog noise to me. Where in the process that happened I am not sure if it’s originally on the Quad tape or happened during transfer (looks like they could almost be hum bars, hard to tell without a moving image).
Jeremy
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