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Cheap Trick: Live at Budokan: 2″ Quad Scan Lines on DigiBeta Dub
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And now you know why somebody lost this footage,,,
I would seriously ask who ever owns the tape wether they had seen the original 2 inch played back. And if the 2 inch is still alive find a a damn good 2 inch engineer ( he can play golf the next day) and lay it down again… You can spend many hours and still not be happy with the digi beta.
Are the highlights strobing or more of a flare.. The old Saticon and Plumbicon camera tubes where notorious for flaring.. Your solutions will be interesting to hear…
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Oh, they’re definitely tube cameras, there are lots of trails when the lens hits the stage lights. The strobing is much worse in the Canvas than on the video monitor.
I don’t know the back story on the original 2″ tapes. I’ll try to find out.
Kevin Monahan
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Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro -
So it seems, that maybe the strobing you see is the scan lines going thru the flare…
Or another way, would the hot spots strobe if you did not have a scan line problem…
I like your puzzle.. Is it possible to make a high contrast negative and use it as a mask to reduce the scan lines. The scan line should be timeable. and you would probably need to mask the negative mask where the important stage imagery is… but your shadows and blacks could be cleaner..
Too much fun,,, and a great story for down at the local pub..
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That is very pretty… au natural or doctored,,, professor?
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This shot looks way better. What’s up?
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The non-doctored frame of Rick Nielsen is more representative of the overall concert. Most of the shots look pretty good as it.
NHK shot it back then, and I’m sure it was state of the art for its time. I think Cheap Trick fans are gonna be thrilled.
Kevin Monahan
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Hi Kevin,
This was call “Venetian Blinds” and is what happens with any video segmented format when the video heads are not equilibrated (optimized) before recording.
In the Quad each head read-write 16 horizontal lines. Those are the bands that Cheap Trick got on top.
In the old times the first task of any editor-video operator , after warming up the VTR, was to adjust the magnetic heads so they output the same RF level. Otherwise I never worked with a Quad, but with the 1″B we had to do the same operation.
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[Rafael Amador] “This was call “Venetian Blinds” and is what happens with any video segmented format when the video heads are not equilibrated (optimized) before recording.”
This can also be caused by incorrect adjustments during playback as well. The banding in the first, dark still looks like phase error caused by either the guide position or guide height (skew/scallop) being misadjusted enough for the electronics not being able to fully correct (this is Old Fart 2″Quad Guy stuff). Also looks like at least one channel’s EQ is mismatched (can see it in the fuzzy red light on the closeup shot). If there’s any possibility of having the 2″ redubbed, do it, maybe at a different facility, though I’d guess it’s one of those tapes that survived that last dub pass but might not last for another.
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I do live events all the time, what those look like to me from my experience are power interference…happens all the time in live situations….not sure how you could fix that in post….
sorry….guess I didnt really help….lol
Paul
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Wrong Beach Multimedia
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