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  • FPS Nightmare… Deadline Looming!!

    Posted by Joseph Wilkins on July 22, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    Hello

    I am pulling my hair out here… I have 2 timelines that I need to combine.

    One is 29.97 FPS and one is 23.98 fps.

    Both were build in FCP at their respective frame rates.

    I tried copying and pasting one timeline into the other and all the audio is off synch… due to the frame rate difference.

    I tried taking the 23.98 project, rendering out as QT, bringing into AE and exporting in a 29.97 format to match and when I rendered it and checked, QT pro said it was at 29.97, yet when I import the rendered QT file, it still have synch issues and when I check the properties in the FCP project using clip settings, it says it is still 23.98 fps – even though I rendered it out of AE as 29.97!! I am stumped and have the client coming to review the final cut tomorrow!!

    Please help

    thanks

    Joseph Wilkins replied 18 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Shane Ross

    July 22, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Try Compressor. Export out the self contained file, then use the Advanced Conversion options in Compressor to compress it to match the other footage in codec and frame rate. Then reimport the result and seee what it looks like and how it behaves.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Chris Borjis

    July 22, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Try Compressor. Export out the self contained file, then use the Advanced Conversion options in Compressor to compress it to match the other footage in codec and frame rate. Then reimport the result and seee what it looks like and how it behaves.”

    That should work, I’ve done that before.

    maybe test a small section near the middle or end (a few seconds)
    to ensure it works before doing it all.

  • Russell Lasson

    July 22, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    A couple of times recently I’ve had footage that if you render it at all, the clip’s in and out point change. I’ve very frustrating and difficult to deal with.

    So to test if you’re having the same problem, check to see if your 23.98 exported file for AE is completely in sync.

    Just thought I’d thought this out just in case.

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Kaleidoscope Pictures
    Provo, UT

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 22, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    YOu have to add pulldown in AE. Set your AE Comp for 23.976 in AE< then in the render settings module, select lower field first for NTSC SD or Upper field first for 1080i NTSC and then click the pulldown option and choose WWWSS. Make sure the "use this frame rate" checkbox says 29.97.

  • Kevin Monahan

    July 22, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    You can also add pulldown to your 23.98 clips right in Cinema Tools.

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • Joseph Wilkins

    July 22, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    The Compressor Method Worked!

    You guys ROCK… thanks so much

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