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  • 4:3 sequence and 16:9 footage – trouble!

    Posted by Charles Busk on May 28, 2008 at 2:49 am

    I thought this would be an easy problem to solve but after having searched for hours I cannot find a solution to my problem…. here goes…

    Having shot a football match in 16:9 (for the first time) all on XL2’s with 5 camera angles, I have almost finished the edit and have only just realized I forgot to change my sequence settings that are set to 4:3. FCP has recognized the captured files as anamorphic and i hoped that when exporting to compressor i would lose the letterbox. I have trialled this and it doesn’t display as 16:9, but as 4:3 with the letterbox. I have also tried opening a new project with a 16:9 sequence and pasting the edit from the 4:3 sequence into the new 16:9 sequence – this doesn’t make any difference. However, when i drag the clips individually from the browser into the new 16:9 sequence they display as true 16:9, no letterbox….

    I am outputting to DVD and require a 16:9 finished product.

    Does anyone have any suggestions so that my final dvd will display correctly on widescreen televisons, and only appear letterboxed on 4:3 televsions?

    Any suggestions are hugely appreciated as my deadline is looming!

    Charles Busk replied 18 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    May 28, 2008 at 5:51 am

    Hi Charles,
    I can not fallow you.
    You been recording 16×9.
    Then, instead of in a16x9 sequence you’ve been lying the clips in a 4×3 sequence.
    Now you have a 16×9 letter-boxed in a 4×3 sequence.
    But you don’t want letter-boxed. You just want full 16×9.
    Is like that?
    If is like that:
    – Open a new 16×9 sequence.
    – Select ALL from the 4×3 sequence and drag it to the 16×9.
    DON”T COPY AND PATE. Drag and drop.
    Should work fine just like that.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Adam Taylor

    May 28, 2008 at 8:16 am

    or you could try this…

    Duplicate your sequence (just in case!!)
    then change the sequence settings to a widescreen 16:9 format (i forget the menu buttons – not at the fcp right now),

    then select all the clips and under the edit menu click on delete attributes,

    then choose only the Distort option.

    That should do it.

    Adam Taylor
    Video Editor/Audio Mixer/ Compositor/Motion GFX/Barista
    Character Options Ltd
    Oldham, UK

  • Charles Busk

    May 28, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Just to clarify. opening a new 16:9 sequence, selecting and dragging the old sequence into it, doesn’t work. You end up with a stretched and distorted image as this method seems to just take 4:3 and stretch it to fit into 16:9, no losing the letterbox!!

    However, the method Adam has written works like a dream.

    [change the sequence settings to a widescreen 16:9 format (i forget the menu buttons – not at the fcp right now),

    then select all the clips and under the edit menu click on delete attributes,

    then choose only the Distort option.]

    Thanks very much for your time guys… I am one happy editor!!!!

  • Rafael Amador

    May 28, 2008 at 11:16 am

    [Charles Busk] “selecting and dragging the old sequence into it,”
    No sorry. I haven’t told you THE SEQUENCE INTO THE SEQUENCE.
    I sayd select everything in your sequence. All the elements In the Time-line.
    It works (sorry) better than the way that Adam suggest, because if in your original movie you had re-sized any element (Graphics, titles,..) you will need to re-size it again.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Charles Busk

    May 28, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    [Rafael Amador – “I sayd select everything in your sequence. All the elements In the Time-line”.]

    I would like to try this method but am not sure i understand what you mean… If i select everything in my edited sequence so that it is ALL highlighted and open a new 16:9 sequence. what do i then do, if i don’t drag and drop? I have tried a few different methods but can’t get the result i’m after unless i use Adams technique. I agree with the nuisance with graphics etc.

  • Jason Porthouse

    May 28, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Charles,

    Try this:

    Copy your 4:3 sequence (for safety’s sake!)
    Change sequence settings in your copy (or other one) to anamorphic
    Select all clips (they should now be incorrectly sized)
    Right-click and do a remove attributes – select distort
    See what happens!

    It’s worked for me before now.

    Jason

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  • Rafael Amador

    May 28, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Sorry Charles. I’ve mixed up my self (Getting old).
    The thing would be drag and drop everything. Then obviously (as Adam and Jason has pointed) Remove Atributes> Distort. That’s the way.
    Sorry again.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Charles Busk

    May 28, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    No problem and certainly no need to apologize.

    Thanks for all your help guys..

    Charles.

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