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  • Render from AE looks bad in FCP

    Posted by Chad Simcox on May 11, 2008 at 12:00 am

    I did a search and couldn’t find anything… But I’ve got a end title card for an edit that looks horrible when I put it in my edit in FCP. The edges of the text are aliasing really really bad. The clip looks fine in QT, so it’s got to be something with FCP (v 6.0.3).
    All that is on the title card is text (helvetica) over a gray background. In AE, I’m using a NTSC DV composition at 29.97. In FCP I’m using a DV/DVCPro NTSC sequence. Both 720×480 with NTSC .9 pixel aspect ratio. I’ve rendered out the file using a variety of codecs (DV, Animation, None), all with the same result.
    In Final Cut I’m set to render at best video quality and when I use the DV codec, I do not have to render and it still looks unacceptable.
    The video is for online distribution, not TV, and any conversion to square pixel would take place down stream from me in the encoding process. I deliver a 29.97 DV/DVCPro NTSC file to the encoding department.

    Any ideas?

    Los Angeles, CA
    http://www.chadsimcox.com

    Chad Simcox replied 18 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    May 11, 2008 at 12:25 am

    [chad simcox] “Any ideas?”

    Sure! Change the Compressor to almost any codec other than DV, and then rerender. To do that, open Sequence — Settings and look at the dropdown under Video Compressor. Try DV50, ProRes, 8-bit uncompressed, etc… All will keep your pristine graphics away from the angel of graphics death called DV compression.

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    Los Angeles

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  • Chad Simcox

    May 11, 2008 at 12:51 am

    DVCPro50 helps (not sure why I didn’t think of trying that codec), but I’m getting some pretty bad ribboning. Applying a Broadcast Safe filter helps. I had tried setting the sequence to uncompressed and wasn’t seeing any change in the aliasing.
    This is stumping me because we normally work in DV compression at our studio and I’ve never seen aliasing or ribboning this bad in graphics created by me or our main motion graphics designer.
    These settings will work for now since the show doesn’t go live for another week.

    Los Angeles, CA
    http://www.chadsimcox.com

  • Kevin Monahan

    May 11, 2008 at 2:47 am

    How are you monitoring your rendered graphics? Is your Canvas set precisely at 100% when evaluating the quality?

    Kevin Monahan
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • Chad Simcox

    May 13, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Monitoring on computer monitor, not a broadcast monitor. Canvas is set to 100%. Even in the viewer window the clip doesn’t look great, but definitely a noticeable drop in quality once on the time line. As I said before, in Quicktime Player the file looks great.
    I actually changed the end of the sketch and put the graphic over video instead of a solid BG. This helped cut down on any noticeable aliasing (due to a busier background).

    Los Angeles, CA
    http://www.chadsimcox.com

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