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AVCHD ingest – new good and bad news
Greetings. Been reading the posts re: AVCHD ingest. Been having many of the same problems. Appear to have found a solution, or at least a workaround.
Working with a new Panasonic HDC-HS9. Nothing was ingesting, no matter what the import preference. Both FCP and iMovie could see the clips I was trying to import just fine, but when I pulled the trigger to ingest, each would crash instantly.
Finally tried SHOOTING in 24p “Cinema” mode — and everything works. In both ProRes 422 and Apple Intermediate Codec settings. Doesn’t care what frame rate I specify — 24p, 29.97, 1080i60. Also doesn’t care whether I pull from SD card or HD drive (the cam has both).
So the good news is it works. Bad news is I’m limited to shooting in 24p. Anybody have a workaround?mark reitz
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I have the SD9 and have shot plenty in 24p mode, none of which I have yet been able to properly ingest.
When FCP decides to ingest instead of crash the resulting clips are speeded up, such as in this thread:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/977982#983444
What system/versions are you using?
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Thanks for the hard info, Jeremy.
Perhaps a play-through capture to a card or external box via HDMI or component, or one day soon a software solution…
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With Panasonics new offerings at NAB of hdv style cameras that record in this format there should be more effort coming from Apple to support this format. The format is supported in the BluRay spec so as a format it has a lot going for it.
“everything is broken” ……Bob Dylan
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Thanks, good to know. I will be on the lookout.
People complain about there being just too many formats, but when it comes down to it there’s always– or will eventually be– solutions and workarounds to get anything into anything and out again! -
greetings again. thanks for the replies, sorry mine is so late. do hope that Apple writes some code that will make this easier for us, but still there might be some workarounds, William.
i did see Apple’s post that Jeremy pointed to. (thanks, Jeremy).
also saw the thread about the speeded up clips.
but that’s not happening at all with my rig. I tried 3 different ingest settings, and once the clips were importing, all the clips came up to the the same running time, same file size, regardless of ingest setting (and they all had audio as a speed reference). but again, the only clips that DIDN’T crash FCP were the ones shot in 24p mode.
So the ingest settings were: (from the Easy Setup dialogue box):
Format: Apple Intermediate Codec Use: HDV 1080i60
Format: Apple ProRes 422 Use: HDV Apple Pro Res 422 1080p24
Format: Apple ProRes 422 Use: AJA IO HD 1080i 29.97
My system settings: OS 10.4.11. FCP 6.0.3. Running on a Macbook Pro, Intel 2.4ghz, 4gb RAM, 7200rpm internal sata HD. I have an AJA IOHD but the box wasn’t powered on for any of this. Maybe the AJA plug-ins are still helping in the background even when the unit’s off?
Again, once it was working, FCP didn’t seem to care whether I brought in the clips from the camera’s internal HD, or the camera’s SD card plugged into a USB reader, or from the hard drive of the computer itself.mark reitz
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Thanks, Mark for the info.
The Apple Support alert about Unexpected Quit is specifically for the HDC-SD9, not your HDC-HS9. So maybe that’s why I still cannot ingest with the settings that work for you.
The clip durations in the Log and Transfer window are normal when moved to the Queue and during ingest, but the clips that appear in the Browser are shortened durations. If FCS doesn’t crash, I end up with speeded-up clips and truncated audio.Since you have the IoHD, have you tried capturing from your camera via HDMI or component? Does that work?
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you’re right, maybe it’s just the diff between the cameras. what a drag. hope Apple gets to this soon.
as far as ingesting with my IOHD thru HDMI or component — a good idea that I’m sure would work. (why wouldn’t it, right?) that was the last resort, though, because in my mind real-time capture sort of defeats the purpose of recording tapeless. but if Apple doesn’t hurry up and write new code — or if i get tired of shooting in 24p in the mean time — i’m sure it’s what I’ll try.
how does one know, by the way, once Apple writes the new code? do they have a notification process?mark reitz
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A work-around with real-time capture would not be unreasonable for us; on our documentaries the SD9 is for insert, b-roll, atmospherics, crowd stuff, crash-cam, etc.- important footage but not lengthy interviews or principal footage.
When the time comes we must have our footage in the edit, if Apple or Panny hasn’t provided a patch, we’ll seek out an IoHD’er who’ll rent us some capture time!
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we just wanted to use this cam for casting, mostly. 2 and 3 hour footage loads at a time. so in our case, i’m imagining a pain to digitize manually thru an IO. looks like our casting will be in so-authentic 24p film mode! our clients will be so impressed!
good luck with your docs.mark reitz
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