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  • Getting organized In Final Cut Pro by Shane Ross

    Posted by Jack Bibbo on April 11, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Would love to find out who has used this and if they found it valuable.

    By the title, sounds a bit remedial. I am looking to establish a solid workflow, a standard if you will, that can be adopted for the whole team here.

    I guess the thing that I am concerned with it that we are all heavy users here. So spending time on “how to setup a scratch disk” is not useful to us.

    I do not mean in anyway to criticize the DVD, because I am positive that ALL the information is pertinent to a certain level of users, so please forgive me if I offended anyone. Not my intention.

    Tutorials can be tricky this way.

    thanks for any insight.

    Shane Ross replied 17 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    April 11, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    As the author, I didn’t make it to be “remedial.” It is meant as an semi-advanced tutorials…well, it does have a bit of remedial-ness to it.

    I made this for the people who are starting out and don’t know how to organize things, as well as the people who might come from another editing system (*cough* Avid *cough*) and might need to be shown how FCP differs. If you are a long time editor and know how to organize things, this might not be for you. Many people who are using FCP now have had NO prior production or post production experience so they don’t know how things are done. This is a series of tutorials on how to organize your projects into dailies bins, scene bins, how to organize your footage on the finder level, how FCP sees music and photos. So I guess a lot of the basics.

    I do go a bit into how to work in a SAN network…but, if you are all heavy users, I don’t think this is for you. As I said, it is more for the absolute novice who has no production experience.

    What would you be looking for.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD now for sale!
    http://www.LFHD.net
    Read my blog!

  • David Roth weiss

    April 11, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Jack,

    As an L.A. based editor used to working in the “Hollywood system,” Shane has put together a DVD that incorporates elements of the Hollywood system along with a system of organization that he designed to work well within FCP. The result is a system that can help many FCP users become more efficient and better able to collaborate with others.

    As a long-time L.A. based editor myself, and someone well-versed in the Hollywood system, I found several of Shane’s ideas useful, specifically because he tailors his organizational system to FCP, which has peculiarities unto itself.

    Shane’s approach to organization may contain some remedial elements, but that’s because it is “a system,” and systems work best if you start with them and stay with them from the beginning. That means setting up your entire project properly from the start. While it may seem remedial, you’ll probably find that you’ve been skipping some very simple organizational steps that have probably cost you lots of time.

    Keep in mind, the Hollywood system is by design one that insures that people in different offices, in different cities, and even on different continents are working in similar ways, thus enabling teams to work efficiently and intuitively in parallel. If you’re not used to that method Shane’s DVD may open your eyes to new ways of doing things that you might find very enlightening.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Tom Wolsky

    April 11, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Are you thinking about updating it for Server Shane?

    That would be really useful.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

  • Shane Ross

    April 11, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Wow…gosh, thanks David. Yeah, I guess that as the author, and user of FCP for many many years, this does seem remedial to me. But true, I do show some FCP organizational tips that are helpful to people migrating from other systems.

    I’m blushing.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD now for sale!
    http://www.LFHD.net
    Read my blog!

  • Shane Ross

    April 12, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Only if I ever get my hands on one. I don’t see buying it for myself, and I don’t think that the company I am at will get it.

    Until I see it and play with it…I won’t know a thing about it.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD now for sale!
    http://www.LFHD.net
    Read my blog!

  • Andrew Kimery

    April 13, 2008 at 1:16 am

    I have Shane’s DVD and definitely recommend it. David pretty much hit the nail on the head, but I’ll toss in my 2 cents as well. Coming from a vault and AE back ground project organization and management is always on the front of my mind and even though some of the tips in Shane’s DVD were things I was already aware the tips I *wasn’t* aware of were well worth the price of admission.

    Also, Shane contributes a TON to the editing community free of charge w/his blog and all the forums he posts on so I’d almost recommend buying the DVD on general principle just to give a little back to Shane for the mountain of knowledge he’s shared w/the community over the years.

    -A

  • Jack Bibbo

    April 22, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Excellent guys thank you.

    As a Avid editor that uses Final Cut Pro, I do know that they are very different (I will leave it at that). Also I know that many people were self taught on FCP so things can get sloppy fast.

    I always tend to approach these things with the mind set that if I learn one thing then it was worth it. It sounds like that would certainly happen.

    Hey David can you elaborate on the “Hollywood System”

    thanks again.

    jack

  • Harry Dawson

    January 14, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Shane, I have your “Getting Organized…” and am trying to figure out
    how you nest bins in bins but for some reason can’t seem to get it.
    I have several project files that are all one big project, a feature
    documentary that started out a few years ago as a much smaller film, actually not a film just gathering footage. So I have all this stuff
    that I kind of need sort of open all the time and I am trying to duplicate what I see on your screen grab, i.e., bins that are open and hold other open bins. Help?!

  • Shane Ross

    January 14, 2009 at 12:34 am

    Well, I have a small demo here too:

    https://proappstuff.com/proapptipsvideotutorials/194F4DC2-ACBB-4DD6-A1D0-F46D7D8DCAFC/739BE552-5A0A-474C-8792-537C4082427B.html

    This really doesn’t work? Drag a tab to the upper window bar next to the other tab, and when you see the BLUE HIGHLIGHT around the window, let go.

    Not work?

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

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