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  • Workflow for Blu Ray

    Posted by Chris Mechling on February 8, 2008 at 2:06 am

    Hi,

    I am running Final Cut Studio 2 on an 8 Core Mac Pro.

    I’d like to be able to create finished Blu Ray discs, complete with menus, copy-protection etc., that will play in a standard home player. If possible I’d like to do most of my work within Final Cut Studio.

    I’ve been hearing about the new Fastmac Blu Ray burner, but nobody has posted a workflow for this yet. I don’t want to invest without knowing how (or if) it will work. Any suggestions?

    Thanks.

    John Willman replied 14 years, 3 months ago 14 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Arnie Schlissel

    February 8, 2008 at 2:33 am

    You cannot author Blu-Ray using FCS. You need to use Adobe Encore, and I don’t know if that runs on Power PC Macs or only on Intel.

    Arnie
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  • Christopher Wright

    February 8, 2008 at 4:20 am

    AND you can’t do copy protection yourself. For that you have to send to a replicating house and spend some bucks.

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  • Thom Obarski

    February 8, 2008 at 6:09 am

    Not completely true, there’s a compressor setting for blu-ray and then choose hd-dvd for disk type in dvd studio pro, dvdsp lets you pit on a low level copyright filter, i know it works for hd-dvds i would assume that if u have a burner and a media disk that is capable of burning blu-rays you could run that same workflow.

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  • Darby Edelen

    February 8, 2008 at 6:52 am

    [Thom Obarski] “i know it works for hd-dvds i would assume that if u have a burner and a media disk that is capable of burning blu-rays you could run that same workflow.”

    HD-DVD and Blu Ray are entirely different beasts in terms of the authoring of discs. DVDSP in no way supports Blu Ray.

    HD-DVD is essentially an evolution of DVD, where as Blu Ray is different from the ground up (the media is probably the most similar aspect, and that’s not saying much).

    I don’t think Encore supports even the most basic of advanced features for Blu Ray (popup menus, for example). There really aren’t any practical solutions for authoring professional level Blu Ray discs outside of Sonic’s Scenarist or Sony’s Blu-Print (neither of these are available under Mac OS X… and they are $$$ expensive $$$).

    I believe I heard that Netblender was working on a more moderately priced BD solution, but currently they only offer HD-DVD solutions.

    https://www.sonic.com/products/Professional/Scenarist/quicklook.aspx
    https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/bluprint.asp
    https://www.netblender.com/

    Darby Edelen
    Designer
    Left Coast Digital
    Santa Cruz, CA

  • Uli Plank

    February 8, 2008 at 8:41 am

    Encore is the only solution for the Mac, and it’s running on Intel only. It will not support anything fancier than standard DVD does – other than higher resolution, of course.
    Plus, copy protection is expensive (and forced upon you), so a small run doesn’t really make sense economically.

    Regards,

    Uli

    Director of the Institute of Media Research (IMF) at Braunschweig University of Arts

  • Marc Rolph

    February 8, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Is Roxio’s Toast 8 not a good option for this workflow?

    Marc Rolph
    Producer/Director
    Mississippi State University

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  • Matthew Dorris

    February 8, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    so do most people then just make a blu-ray disc image or dvd folder in Encore, and then bring it to a duplicating house? I’m buying my first HD camera soon, and figuring out my delivery workflow.

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 8, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    [Chris Mechling] “If possible I’d like to do most of my work within Final Cut Studio.”

    You can edit and prepare your files for BluRay in Final Cut Studio.

    You must purchase Adobe Encore CS3 (which ONLY comes with Premiere) and you can only run that on an Intel Mac.

    You must purchase Roxio Toast 8 to actually burn the discs.

    We own the internal FastMac burner for the Mac Pro and it does work perfectly.

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  • Walter Biscardi

    February 8, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    [Matthew Dorris] “so do most people then just make a blu-ray disc image or dvd folder in Encore, and then bring it to a duplicating house?”

    Ok, you can’t just bring a bluray file to a “duplicating house.” In order to be a commercial replicating facility, they have to be approved by the BluRay council, commission, whatever it is. I was told by one company it’s a $1 million investment in the equipment and licensing.

    Your title has to be submitted for approval by the same BluRay commission, council, whatever it is and this costs somewhere between $2,500 and $5,000. You then have to have a gold master created which is another $2,500 to $4,000. So before you burn your first BluRay disc you’re out a lot of money and ONLY if the BluRay folks approve your title for replication.

    Hence our purchase of our own BluRay burner and replicator. We spent about a month testing the BluRay workflow and it’s much easier to just do it yourself unless you need a LOT of copies.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Matthew Dorris

    February 8, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Thanks for the info. I had assumed that blu-ray burners were still well out of my price range without checking it out, but it seems they’re quite affordable now. Thanks again.

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