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  • I’m Running Leopard – so far so good

    Posted by David Roth weiss on December 31, 2007 at 2:16 am

    Because I have a rather pressure-packed gig coming up next week on a client’s brand new MacPro running under Leopard, I decided I might as well give the spotted cat a look see at my place first so I could find out what works and what doesn’t.

    So, after cloning my present system drive and tucking that away safely, I did the clean install of Leopard using the method that erases the drive first, and then, after doing all the updates I installed FCP from scratch and did all of those updates. The Leopard install was fast at just under an hour, but the FCP install and required updates took hours and hours (6 or 7 I think, I fell asleep at some point). I don’t know what Apple uses to squeeze data onto their installation DVDs, but whatever they use, it certainly is about the slowest thing ever devised when decompressing.

    So far everything is running quite nicely, although I did get a crash first thing this morning. However, I attribute the crash to my mistake of forgetting to to turn off all of the energy saving features in System Preferences. Keep that one in mind… Its one of the very first things you should do after installing from scratch…

    So far its Apple Leopard batting 1000, while David managed to hit a short pop fly his first time at the plate against the new cat. If I make it though this gig working under Leopard I’ll let ya’ll know…

    Meanwhile, I hope every one of you has a terrific 2008…

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

    Jeff Carrion replied 18 years, 4 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    December 31, 2007 at 4:27 am

    Hi David,
    I’ve been waiting for somebody fearless like you to give the green-light.
    BTW, If you have DiscWarrior, why don’t you have a look to the graphic, just to see how are the directories?
    A couple of months ago a experienced that a clean, perfect installation doesn’t mean that your Mac system is optimized at all, but the opposite. 32% of items out of order.
    Cheers and a happy 2008.
    rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • David Roth weiss

    December 31, 2007 at 7:21 am

    [Rafael Amador] “I’ve been waiting for somebody fearless like you to give the green-light.”

    Well Rafael, I never intended to be on the bleeding edge. And, I gotta admit, I have a fair amount of fear going in as I’m about to head into a very time-intensive job away from home base, that has to be cut on an new, untested machine, running under Leopard. So, I decided I’d better dive in here while I had a free moment, just to get a little Leopard time in before heading into the real crucible next week.

    BTW, the thing that’s most scary is that my Tiger clone, which makes me feel completely secure here, will not work next week if Leopard happens to be a problem. The machine I’ll be on next week won’t even boot up under Tiger. So, its Leopard, or its nothing at all…

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Rafael Amador

    December 31, 2007 at 7:59 am

    I know that you are very careful about to go to a new system. This is why I thought: If David Roth updated, is time to do so:-)
    BTW, I made a clone of my Tiger system a couple of months ago, but whe i tried to run few applications from there, I had to enter the serial number of the most of the applications. What I did wrong?

    [David Roth Weiss] “The machine I’ll be on next week won’t even boot up under Tiger.” Why this? Is your Tiger for PPC and you will run an Intel one?
    rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

  • David Roth weiss

    December 31, 2007 at 8:09 am

    [Rafael Amador] “whe i tried to run few applications from there, I had to enter the serial number of the most of the applications. What I did wrong?”

    I’m not sure what you did wrong, but if you cloned using Carbon Copy Cloner and just used its defaults, you’d simply boot to that drive and it should behave exactly as your working system drive, with no need for any serial numbers.

    The machine I’m using next week is a brand new MacPro that comes from the factory with Leopard installed. As someone here mentioned a while back, the new bios limits the new machines to Leopard and higher. The simply cannot load an earlier OS. That’s just a bit frightening…

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Zane Barker

    December 31, 2007 at 9:46 am

    [David Roth Weiss] “As someone here mentioned a while back, the new bios limits the new machines to Leopard and higher. The simply cannot load an earlier OS.”

    David I believe that is only true if the machine was originally released after the release of leopard. It has to do with the drivers of the older OS not supporting the hardware of the newer machine.

    That said you would still need a copy of the 10.4 system disks from the same model Mac Pro, because the Box version of the 10.4 disks NEVER supported Intel machines (and why should they all Intel machines came with 10.4), and the disks that come with machines are always model specific meaning one model Mac Pro disks will not work on another model Mac Pro.

    So you could try a running 10.4 on it if you have disks from another machine of the same model. There certainly hasn’t been a newer model Mac Pro since the release of 10.5

    Happy Editing To You!!

  • Mark Palmos

    December 31, 2007 at 10:41 am

    [David Roth Weiss] “So far everything is running quite nicely, “
    hey there david, happy new year to you!

    please could you import some motion templates onto an FCP timeline and play. Preferably stack them a bit, use 4 or 5.

    I cannot use Motion templates with Leopard and AJA Kona Lhe simultaneously… take one out of the equasion, all is fine, but the three together always causes FCP to freeze.

    thanks mate
    mark.

  • Chris Borjis

    December 31, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Yeah David do you know if the .motn files in a 6.02 fcp timeline will render fast again like 5.xx did?

  • Warren Eig

    December 31, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    [Rafael Amador] “BTW, If you have DiscWarrior, why don’t you have a look to the graphic, just to see how are the directories?

    Don’t use Diskwarrior on 10.5. Alsoft is working on an update and advices against running Diskwarrior until they fix some problems.

    My 2

  • Zak Mussig

    December 31, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    Chris,

    This is anecdotal, but .motn files seemed to render much faster in 6.02 than previous versions of 6, but still not as fast as with 5.1.2.

    I’ve had some weird issues with the Motion QuickTime component since FSC2/ Leopard. My fonts all got changed to Times New Roman in FCP or when exporting with Compressor. Exporting from within Motion left everything as expected.

    I don’t have the Adobe video apps, so upgraded to Leopard about a week after the initial release. Performance and stability have gotten better, but I still don’t trust this setup as much as FCP 5.1.2/Motion 2.x on Tiger. That may or may not be based on anything real.

    Zak

  • Rafael Amador

    January 1, 2008 at 6:38 am

    You’re right Warren. Alsoft said Leopard will need a new DW version.
    I was curious to know. Two months ago I picked a brand new HD and installed MacOX10.4 and FC2. Step by step. Repairing permissions after each single installation. Before open any program I ran DW and I fund 32% of items out of order. The use of DW or TechTools have became critic to make any Mac works.
    rafael

    PPC G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM/BlackMagic SD/PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM
    JVC DTV-17″/FCS2/AE CS3/COMBUSTION/SHAKE

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