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What Settings Should I Use?
Posted by Collin Alexander on December 21, 2007 at 6:48 amOK. We’re embarking on a documentary project that will incorporate source footage of every type imaginable. The main interview footage is all captured DV, but we’re also using footage ripped from DVD, internet video of all various sizes and codecs, JPEG photos, and you name it.
The final product is to be an NTSC DVD,720 x 480.
What project settings do you think would be best?
Thanks for the input. Appreciate.
Rafael Amador replied 18 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 13 Replies -
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Michael Sacci
December 21, 2007 at 8:04 amIf your footage is DV, rip the DVD to DV and edit a DV timeline.
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Rafael Amador
December 21, 2007 at 11:20 amHi colling,
if you want to extract something from a DVD to be re-edited, use MPGStreamclip and export QT movie 8b uncompressed or so. If you export as QT DV you will get something really poor.
and if you export as DV (no QT DV), you will get a DV Sequence as the ones that iMovie uses. So no.
Set your FC sequence with the codex of the most of your footage. When you have everything ready, send to Compressor from the FC time line to make your MPGs, or if you want to export a QT master, set the sequence to 8b Uncompress. if you end up exporting to DV before to go to Compressor, you will degrade your mvie.
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Collin Alexander
December 21, 2007 at 3:26 pmI also have graphics coming in from Photoshop.
Wouldn’t it be better to work the timeline in progressive instead of interlaced?
I just had a wild idea, tell me if it makes any sense or is crazy. Could I set the project at 720 x 480, progressive, and 59.94 frames per second? Then edit the whole project with that.
Wouldn’t FCP then keep every field of my interlaced footage, and make a whole frame out of each field? Then in the end, couldn’t I export the final at 29.97 interlaced, and break every frame down into a field?
The problem is I have footage of every possible imaginable type, and I want the end product to lose as little as possible.
Thanks.
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Rafael Amador
December 21, 2007 at 5:57 pm[Collin Alexander] “Wouldn’t it be better to work the timeline in progressive instead of interlaced? “ if you want to finish in interlaced, there is not much point to de-interlace first unless you o to apply any filter that works better with progresive footage.
[Collin Alexander] “Wouldn’t FCP then keep every field of my interlaced footage, and make a whole frame out of each field” You can do that with Reelsmart FK, but you end up with a clip with double duration.
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Collin Alexander
December 21, 2007 at 7:35 pmDon’t graphics work better in progressive?
Can somebody else weigh in on this whole issue? I can’t be the first to be in this situation.
Couldn’t 59.94 p be converted to 29.97 i and end up with the correct playback speed, converting every 2 frames of 59.94 p into a pair of fields for 29.97 i?
Not that I necessarily want to go through all that. What are other options?
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Arnie Schlissel
December 21, 2007 at 9:02 pmIf your graphics are designed properly for interlaced video they will be just as good as if they were designed for progressive.
Bear in mind that if your final target is DVD, the Mpeg compression used to create the DVD will be very hard on your graphics. you should test & design them accordingly.
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Collin Alexander
December 21, 2007 at 10:19 pmI see DVDs with graphics in them that look just fine. Somebody must know how to do it.
The graphics that come out of my photoshop look just fine.
So I should export graphics from photoshop as interlaced, yes?
Is that the best way to design graphics for end target DVD?
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Rafael Amador
December 22, 2007 at 5:22 amColling,
I think you are complicating your life. To make a good DVD, the first you need is a good movie. Just put everything in a DV sequence. Even if things look bad. When you have cuted, composited, CC etc,change your codex and render.
Don’t get me wrong, but you want to undertake some processes that you do not understand.
You need to understand well all the interlacing issue and how is managed by the different applications. You can not create a graphic on PS and export it as interlaced. You can get interlaced stills when you are exporting a still sequence.
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Arnie Schlissel
December 22, 2007 at 5:52 amWhat Rafael says.
If you follow the accepted practices for making standard def NTSC (or PAL) graphics, you should be fine. Try to be a bit conservative about colors (especially red!) and make sure you don’t have any thin lines or thin fonts.
Arnie
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Collin Alexander
December 22, 2007 at 6:31 amI’m in NTSC land.
Sorry, I can’t get my head around “just do it any old way and fix it later”. That sounds like a recipe for a nightmare to me.
I come from a background in music production, maybe that’s my problem!I’ve seen great graphics on DVD, my graphics look great coming out of photoshop. There must be a way to get them to look good, because others have done it!
What’s wrong with red? I’ve seen red graphics on DVDs, and it looks fine.
PNG and GIF formats support interlaced by the way Rafael.
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