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  • fcp 6.0.1 interlace playback over firewire deck

    Posted by William Wedig on September 22, 2007 at 6:20 pm

    I have a brand new Mac Pro with Dual Quad 3.0ghz and 9 Gigs/ram.

    Upon installing FCP 6 and updating 6.0.1 I opened a project that was previously worked on in FCP 5.1.4. The project was shot on 35mm, transferred to normal DV NTSC 29.97 for working on and was captured at that setting, our sequence is at that setting. We are doing our own conform and cutting the neg ourselves so we’re not worried about the 29 vs 24 issue.

    The thing I’m running into now is that we have out system routed through a dsr-11 to a huge crt monitor, but the monitor seems to really show the interlaced frames and also the motion is jittery. This wasn’t an issue before we updated and moved machines, and I’ve tried changed the sequence field dominance to ‘none’, ‘upper’ and ‘ lower’ but none of them fix the problem on playback. The computer monitor shows up fine (as expected) but I was wondering if this is something having to do with FCP’s new support of multi-format sequence working.

    Is it maybe a pull down issue? that doesn’t seem to react and I’ve also trashed my preferences already.

    If anybody has any clue, please let me know.

    Thanks,
    Will Wedig

    Editor/Post-Production Supervisor

    Wasson replied 18 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Mark Raudonis

    September 22, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    [William Wedig] “The project was shot on 35mm, transferred to normal DV NTSC 29.97 for working on and was captured at that setting, our sequence is at that setting. “

    William,

    You are NOT working @ 23.98… you’re working @ 29.97 and so you’re seeing the interlacing introduced by the transfer to video process. If you used cinema tools to remove the 3-2 pulldown AND worked in a 23.98 sequence AND watched on a monitor capable of playing 24fps, you would NOT see the interlacing.

    This has nothing to do with multi format support.

    Mark

  • William Wedig

    September 23, 2007 at 4:15 am

    Yes, some interlacing will occur when playing at 30 vs 24 (or 23.98 vs 23.98) when mastered in 24. But that doesn’t explain massive amounts of tearing when we switched from FCP 5.1.4 to FCP 6. It looks to me like a field order issue but that doesn’t seem to solve the problem in the sequence settings. Also, when scanned through frame by frame the ghost frames (interlaced frames) seem to have a gray/clear area on the monitor in or around the interlace tearing of the frames, which says to me that final cut is trying to make information up or is doing a process which the deck cannot fully recognize (does that make any sense?).

    There was definitely some very, very minor interlacing before when playing the 29.97 time line, but this is something else. Something way more extreme. We’ve been working on this film for over a year so this is a new occurance that happened just when we updated version.

    Any other ideas or anyone else see this with a dv deck/cam on fcp 6?

    William Wedig
    Editor/Post-Production Supervisor

  • Mark Raudonis

    September 23, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    Try rolling back your FCP to 5.1.4 and see if the problem goes away. If so, then obviously, something has been changed in the project settings to cause your problem.

    We use DVCAMs/DV decks all day long and we’re NOT seeing anything other than normal interlacing with 6.0.

    Upgrading software mid project is never a good idea… and now you know why. Has anything else changed in your monitoring chain? Different monitor? Cables? Monitoring cards (Kona, BM, etc.).

    If the only thing that’s different is FCP 6.0, then go deep into the project settings to see what’s different.
    Good luck.

    mark

  • Wasson

    October 9, 2007 at 2:42 am

    Hey, if this is the William Wedig who directed Rise of the Dead, I really need to talk to you! Please shoot me an email at wasson@gmail.com. I’ve got a great opportunity for you.

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