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  • WRAW format with alpha

    Posted by Jeremy Doyle on June 25, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    I recieved a graphic today that is compressed as an avi in the WRAW format. When I look at the properties in quicktime it says millions plus, but I don’t seem to be getting an alpha channel. I tried in FCP and I tried in AE where I interpurted the file as straight and when that didn’t work I tried premultipied with black. No luck, any suggestions?

    Also inluded on the disc was a file labled apha only. When I open this the picture is entirely white and when I look at the properties it is just millions. The two files run the same length however the file size is quite a bit smaller so I’m assuming there is nothing there. Any suggestions on that?

    Thanks for any help or suggestions.

    Jeremy

    Jeremy Doyle replied 18 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • David Bogie

    June 25, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    > I recieved a graphic today that is compressed as an avi in the WRAW format. < Don't know that codec, AVI is notoriously weird when it comes to alpha processing, I doubt there is a Quicktime component for it. There are very few AVI codecs at all for QT. Call the source of these files and ask for something more universally acceptable like Animation codec. > When I look at the properties in quicktime it says millions plus, but I don’t seem to be getting an alpha channel. < If you haven't got the codec, you won't see the alpha. What do you see? > I tried in FCP and I tried in AE where I interpurted the file as straight and when that didn’t work I tried premultipied with black. No luck, any suggestions? < You haven't said what "no lukc" means. What do you see? Anything? > Also inluded on the disc was a file labled apha only. When I open this the picture is entirely white and when I look at the properties it is just millions. The two files run the same length however the file size is quite a bit smaller so I’m assuming there is nothing there. Any suggestions on that?< An alpha-only file is often provided out of 3D apps. It can be an actual alpha image over transparency but it can also be a simple monochrome image that you will use with a "make alpha" filter or a track matte function. bogiesan This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Jeremy Doyle

    June 25, 2007 at 6:20 pm

    >If you haven’t got the codec, you won’t see the alpha. What do you see? < I see the graphic just no alpha channel. I have no trouble at all playing the avi files, I just don't see the alpha. >You haven’t said what “no lukc” means. What do you see? Anything?< I see everything that is suppose to be there. I just haven't got the alpha channel (black holes) to be transparent. >An alpha-only file is often provided out of 3D apps. It can be an actual alpha image over transparency but it can also be a simple monochrome image that you will use with a “make alpha” filter or a track matte function.< The alpha only file just shows as solid white. >Call the source of these files and ask for something more universally acceptable like Animation codec.< That's not going to happen because I don't think he's that smart as the first time I asked for the animation he sent it to me on a beta sp tape. I then requested a data file with an alpha channel and this is what he sent. I don't even know what equipment he has. I opened the files on a PC with AE and the alpha channel wasn't transparent there either so I've come to believe that I'm just not going to get it. This is my workable solution, I captured the beta tape (because the data file he sent didn't inlcude the whole animation anyway) brought the clip into AE. Used the treshold to great a black and white that I can use as a motion matte.

  • Arnie Schlissel

    June 26, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    Did the beta include a black & white version of the animation? That could be a ‘hi-con’ to be used as an alpha matte.

    Arnie
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  • Jeremy Doyle

    June 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    >Did the beta include a black & white version of the animation?< No it did not.

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