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  • combining HD & HDV in FCP6 or 5

    Posted by Editor Mayhem on May 30, 2007 at 3:40 am

    Hey there,

    I’m wondering if anyone has had any luck with being able to combine DVCPro-HD 720p 30 footage with HDV 1080i footage in a single timeline in FCP6. I’m hoping this might work, as it would make my life much easier.

    Or, can anyone recommend the best way to combine those 2 formats in a single timeline (in FCP5) that will not involve any rendering and will allow me to go back to the tapes for an online. I want to edit in a DVCPro-HD 720p 30 environment, and I also have footage that will be shot HDV (and not with a panasonic P2 camera).

    I was thinking that one potential solution might be to upres the HDV footage to DVPro-HD using a Kona card, but will I have TC problems when I have to go back to the tapes for an online? My own edit system does not have a card (nor does it have an Intel processor), but I could rent one to injest the HDV footage and transcode it.

    i’d appreciate any advice I can get.

    mayhem

    Matt Mcmakin replied 18 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Sean Oneil

    May 30, 2007 at 5:33 am

    [editor mayhem]
    I’m wondering if anyone has had any luck with being able to combine DVCPro-HD 720p 30 footage with HDV 1080i footage in a single timeline in FCP6. I’m hoping this might work, as it would make my life much easier.”

    Its supposed to work. That’s one of the touted features. If I wasn’t still waiting for my upgrade to arrive I could tell you more. Lots of discussion already on it though.

    [editor mayhem] “I was thinking that one potential solution might be to upres the HDV footage to DVPro-HD using a Kona card,”

    1080i -> 720p is actually downrezing.

    What are you mastering to for delivery? That is the format you should capture everything at. If you don’t know yet, I would actually capture everything at 1080i (DVCProHD or P-JPEG) since you won’t lose any resolution and the quality is probably good enough for online..

    The good news for you is that both formats have the same framerate. So no matter what you do, you shouldn’t have any problems doing a batch recapture (Uncompressed for example) for when you online it.

    Sean

  • Editor Mayhem

    May 30, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    [editor mayhem]
    I’m wondering if anyone has had any luck with being able to combine DVCPro-HD 720p 30 footage with HDV 1080i footage in a single timeline in FCP6. I’m hoping this might work, as it would make my life much easier.”

    [SEAN] Its supposed to work. That’s one of the touted features. If I wasn’t still waiting for my upgrade to arrive I could tell you more. Lots of discussion already on it though.

    [editor mayhem] “I was thinking that one potential solution might be to upres the HDV footage to DVPro-HD using a Kona card,”

    [sean] 1080i -> 720p is actually downrezing.

    MAYHEM: But Progressive is remarkedly better looking than Interlaced, and I need to view the cut on my apple monitor, because I’m not playing out to an external monitor.

    What are you mastering to for delivery? That is the format you should capture everything at. If you don’t know yet, I would actually capture everything at 1080i (DVCProHD or P-JPEG) since you won’t lose any resolution and the quality is probably good enough for online..

    MAYHEM: ultimately, it will go to HD broadcast on a PBS affiliate, but it will online uncompressed 10-bit.

    SEAN:The good news for you is that both formats have the same framerate. So no matter what you do, you shouldn’t have any problems doing a batch recapture (Uncompressed for example) for when you online it.

    Sean

    mayhem

  • Matt Mcmakin

    May 31, 2007 at 12:13 pm

    I’m wondering if anyone has had any luck with being able to combine DVCPro-HD 720p 30 footage with HDV 1080i footage in a single timeline in FCP6. I’m hoping this might work, as it would make my life much easier.”

    [SEAN] Its supposed to work. That’s one of the touted features. If I wasn’t still waiting for my upgrade to arrive I could tell you more. Lots of discussion already on it though.

    SEAN:The good news for you is that both formats have the same framerate. So no matter what you do, you shouldn’t have any problems doing a batch recapture (Uncompressed for example) for when you online it.

    CIVDIV: The is not just frame size and rate it’s interframe combined with intraframe codecs on top of the other variables. Also I think you need to specify what platform you intend to edit on to gain perspective on other peoples experiances. Are we talking G5 or MacPro and with what kind of graphics card? Have talked to people who have succesfully mixed frame rates of the same codec, also edited with the sequece set to a differnt codec than meida and they have good things to say. Cant upgrade yet myself to tell you what happens on a 2.6Ghz MacPro with 3GB.

    Second stumbiling block, which flavor HDV and what happens to it’s timecode when you need to batch the HDV back off tape for the online. Have not seen a thing about accuracy of editing with a sequence at “x” frame rate and and content of “y”. Dont think it could be too far off in worst case scenairio?

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