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  • Compressor 3 or Nattress Converter?

    Posted by David Scott on April 24, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    Hi
    Just wondering about investing in the Nattress Standards Converter, but see that Compressor 3 makes big claims about “optical flow technology to produce pristine standards conversions”. I need to go from PAL to NTSC, anyone got any comments?
    Thanks
    David Scott

    Graeme Nattress replied 14 years, 5 months ago 10 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    April 24, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    This technology is available in the current version of Compressor and has been for some time, but it is extremely slow. Supposedly this has been improved in v3. However they were talking about this being three times faster. Unfortunately Compressor was many, many more than three times slower than the Nattress software. Actual results cannot be tested until the product is released.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy” DVDs

  • David Battistella

    April 24, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    The Natress converters do a fine job and I have used them in the past with great results.

    David

    Peace and Love 🙂

  • John Pale

    April 24, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    The Nattress Converter is excellent.
    Though Compressor 2 can do the job, it can literally take DAYS to render. Not really worth it unless you are talking about a couple of quick shots.
    I did hear this will be improved in Compressor 3, but unless you have a top of the line Octo-core Mac Pro, I doubt it will be improved enough to be usable.

  • Alec Gitelman

    April 24, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    i got some nasty strobing when converting from NTSC to PAL with Compressor 2. Maybe I was doing something wrong, but Nattress Converter did the job without a glitch. not sure how well Compressor 3 will work, but I’m sure Nattress Converter will still be worth the money.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    April 24, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    Compressor has that new feature though of sending an instance of each batch to separate processors on your Mac… Don’t know about statistics exactly, but do know that an h.264 encode can be 300% time if done with Compressor 3 on an octo mac… THAT’s a major speed up from Compressor 2…

    Nattress’ converters are first rate however. and Compressor 3 is more than a month away…

    Jerry

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  • Graeme Nattress

    April 24, 2007 at 7:00 pm

    My slightly biassed take is this:

    If you want utterly pristine conversion, and can wait for literally days, Compressor does the best job.

    If you want a pretty darn good conversion that renders about 40 times quicker (at last time I checked) then my conversion plugin is the way to go.

    If you want 60i to 24p, I’d probably use mine no matter what as that mode looks great, as does 25p to 60i conversions.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Alec Gitelman

    April 24, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    can you take a look at these?

    https://maxf.net/~alichek/ConversionComp/

    so far i feel i’m getting the better result going to PAL from NTSC from your converter than from Compressor (in general smoother motion, not the first project doing this). But it seems to work properly only with DV. I would like to make it work with higher quality image. Maybe it’s a general FCP issue I think, because I cannot make render in Animation or None without completely ruining the picture.

    btw., compressor switches to upper field first order when converting to pal uncompressed 4:2:2. is upper field first a default for PAL? should i be switching to that?

    Thank you very much for your help.
    Alec.

  • John Pale

    April 25, 2007 at 12:28 am

    PAL uncompressed is upper field first (PAL DV is lower, though)

  • Graeme Nattress

    April 25, 2007 at 12:40 am

    Usually PAL is upper, but it’s mostly capture card dependent on what it and the codec want. Aren’t fields pesky and annoying 🙂

    For what it’s worth, all HD is upper.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • David Scott

    April 25, 2007 at 9:29 am

    Hi Everyone
    Thanks for all your coments – Nattress it is!
    David Scott

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