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Can we capture uncompressed 8bits sdi or componet with internal hard drives?
Hello cows!!!!
We have a project incoming, and we are looking for the best solution.
We have a MacPro with Final Cut, and Black Magic declink card to buy this week.
We wanna digitize from a DIGIBETA, trought SDI or COMPONENT, to internal hard drives. We are thinking on SATA drives.
The media would be 8bits uncompressed, just to edit some clips, and then digital cut back to tape, trought SDI or COMPONENT.
Does the internal hard drives will support 8bits uncompressed?
Do we need internal SATA drives?
Does it also work with external Lacie fw800? we have 2 of them.The clips will be around 26
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Does the internal hard drives will support 8bits uncompressed? On a mac pro yes you can use the internal hard drives I would suggest to make a raid with them and create some redundancy. You’ll have to calculate your needed disk space of course!
Do we need internal SATA drives? Yes you have 3 internal drive bays… they are SATA
Does it also work with external Lacie fw800? we have 2 of them. I would never use Lacie drives for working on.. I’ve have nothing but bad experiences with them when working from them… They are great for storing data and shipping data but personally I wouldnt use them to work from… yer askin fer it there buddy!
Hi-Def and 2K Online Finishing
Compositing, Motion Graphics
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THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION
1) Thats perfect that we can moutn SATA drives on MAC PRO. 3 Bays could be perfect.
Should i make them in RAID? And how? There is a software?
Sorry I cam from AVID on Windows, everything already done…i have no clue about mac.
2) I will forget about the Lacie, i also had problem with dv on final cut.
3) Any info about to calculate the space for Uncompresed 8bits? I think it will be the same digitize trought SDI or COMPONENT.
Thanks a lot!!!!
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1) Thats perfect that we can moutn SATA drives on MAC PRO. 3 Bays could be perfect.
Should i make them in RAID? And how? There is a software? Yes its already on your mac… Disk Utility
Sorry I cam from AVID on Windows, everything already done…i have no clue about mac.
2) I will forget about the Lacie, i also had problem with dv on final cut. cool!
3) Any info about to calculate the space for Uncompresed 8bits? I think it will be the same digitize trought SDI or COMPONENT. Umm look it up on the net.. google is my friend! sorry but have to go to a session now! Lata~
Thanks a lot!!!!
Hi-Def and 2K Online Finishing
Compositing, Motion Graphics
Hollywood, Ca -
At the moment I am running SD 10bit uncompressed from a Lacie 1TB firewire 800 drive without drop frames or problems. The drives are fast enough. I know some people hate Lacie and others love them. If you buy sata drives and mount them internally you will certainly have faster drives, particularly if you use RAID.
Use SDI not component if at all possible. The SDI only cards are cheaper than the component as well.
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[Michael G] “At the moment I am running SD 10bit uncompressed from a Lacie 1TB firewire 800 drive without drop frames or problems. The drives are fast enough.”
Michael,
May seem fast enough for editing, but be aware, when print to tape time comes along that’s the true test…
DRW
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DRW, so far the 56 episodes of a one hour show we have played out from firewire 800 Lacie drives over the past two years have yet to have a single drop frame. This has been the case with 250gig, 500 gig and 1TB Lacies. I am using PAL 10 bit uncompressed. I run the Decklink speed test on the drives and they all have headroom. In NTSC the headroom is slightly reduced.
I don’t do editing here, just online & grade and output to tape. I have had issues with one Lacie drive in all that time but given the total number of hours and the variety of Lacies, I am confident in them. I don’t see many other drive types in externals so the industry here in Sydney must also be confident or foolish. For HD I use a sata 4TB fibre RAID.
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[Michael G] “I have had issues with one Lacie drive in all that time”
Michael,
I’m just not fond of firewire drives in general for anything other than cutting DV, file storage and file transport. SATA just never seems to be burdened by anything I throw its way, so I guess I’ve become a SATA snob.
DRW
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Most of my work comes from clients bringing in jobs on firewire drives to be graded and output to tape so I don’t have a choice or a problem. DV or SD uncompressed works fine for me. HD gets dumped to the RAID or recaptured uncompressed.
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Hola Percheron,
When you will get your BlackMagic, you will get asoftwre package with a application call: Blackmagic Speed Disk Test. This application will tell you if your HDs are fast enough to manage the data rate of the different uncompressed formats.
About the LaCies In my experience they work great for editing but, as David Roth point, I have never tried to print to video a 10b Unc clip so I don’t know how would behave in such a task.
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[David Roth Weiss] “so I guess I’ve become a SATA snob”
Hey David, I love that term, would you mind if I use it too?
Regards,
David
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