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  • 24 frame in 30 frame project

    Posted by Neil001 on February 7, 2007 at 1:25 am

    I’m going to start editing a TV movie on FCP which will be shot on HD, then transfered to DV for offline editing.
    Do I need to buy a capture card to capture video at 24 fps? Or can I edit in a 30 frame project and then convert the EDL to a 24 frame EDL in Cinema Tools?

    Or… can I capture 24 frame in FCP without a third party capture card? If I do, will my outputs have the slight jerky effect?

    Thanks,

    Neil

    The Edit doctor replied 19 years, 3 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • The Edit doctor

    February 7, 2007 at 3:58 am

    What form of HD is the shooting in? 1080i? DVCPRO HD 23.98? That kind of information would be helpful…

    No, you can’t use FCP to remove pulldown on the fly (except 24p advanced Panasonic footage)

    Decklink cards with FCP can function as a live pulldown removal, yet not 100% sure if it can do DV format on the fly, but other formats yes – like photojpeg). Please check their current stats at website http://www.blackmagic.com.

    Yes, you can edit 29.97 DVCAM and use Cinema Tools to create a 23.98 cutlist, but there is a plus or minus one frame off potential for some cuts so the onlinepicture in certain cuts will have to be slid one frame to sync to the AUDIO created from the 29.97 cut.

  • Neil001

    February 7, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    I’m not sure right now what format the DP is shooting on, but whatever it is will be transfered to D5, then the DVcams will be made from that. Does it matter what format DP is shooting? All I want is to be able to edit offline (from DVcam) in a 24 frame environment and output an EDL when I’m done that’s acurate.

  • Neil001

    February 7, 2007 at 7:14 pm

    Thanks for the info.

    If I use Cinema Tools to create 23.98 files, when I output the cut to DVcam for viewing purposes, will the image have a slight stutter because it’s not being “pulled up”?
    I think I would perfer to buy a capture card to capture with pulldown on the fly but I’m not sure what I need or if that’s even a solution. I have a mac with pci-e (the model just before the intels)

  • The Edit doctor

    February 7, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    Read my previous post:

    http://www.blackmagic.com – Decklink cards – PCI, PCI-E

    The “flicker” you mention is regarding the 3:2 pulldown – the fifth frame is a hard duplicate of the 4th frame so to speak instead of an interlaced process with the B/C and C/D . This is 5% noticible to a trained eye and again, it’s for OFFLINE EDITING ONLY. Besides, this DV version is not you master. The master will be the D5 source but again….you really need to find out the frame rate. D5 is not a frame rate. It’s a format capable of multiple frame rates. If the film is a 59.94/30fps shot project then all the pulldown down methods you speak are really of no value.

    This may sound a bit harsh and I’m not sure how you landed this project, but it appears you may be a bit over your capabilites. Recognize your limitations on this one. This is not something you can BS through.

  • Neil001

    February 7, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    I’ve cut 16 features and TV movies over the years using Avid, FCP, Media 100 and Ediflex and Callaway, so I kinda know what I’m talking about. Me thinks you over complicate things with your fancy tech talk!

  • The Edit doctor

    February 7, 2007 at 9:13 pm

    Excellent, there you go then.

    Best wishes

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