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Bookmark this site — www.doom9.org/
I was reading an article on Blue ray and HD DVD in the NY Times and they mentioned this site Doom9.org. It is very interesting and a lot of people here ask these same questions.. Unfortunately, me thinks it is all PC related software, which is just about enough encouragment for me to finally build one of those Windows PC monsters.
This is a quote from the home page ……
“When I started this page in March 2000 I had no idea that it would turn into something big. When I started out ripping my first DVD there was no single good guide available on the web and I had to figure it out all on my own. I spent a lot of time browsing Delphi Forums trying to get details on how titles like “The Matrix”, how to get proper synch, etc. In the end I decided to make the results available to everyone. Till then much has changed. This page now more than 400 HTML pages, more than 2000 images and a considerable software archive and it’s getting more and more. Moreover you can get your daily dose of ripping-related news. Keeping this all together takes an insane amount of time.”
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looks like just a online guide on how to break copywright laws
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Don’t you mean “an online guide to taking back your fair use rights to make a backup and to watch your purchased media on your choice of equipment?”
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[Graeme Nattress] “Don’t you mean “an online guide to taking back your fair use rights to make a backup and to watch your purchased media on your choice of equipment?””
No I think he means breaking copyright laws.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
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HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[edit] “I was reading an article on Blue ray and HD DVD in the NY Times and they mentioned this site Doom9.org. It is very interesting and a lot of people here ask these same questions.. Unfortunately, me thinks it is all PC related software, which is just about enough encouragment for me to finally build one of those Windows PC monsters.
This is a quote from the home page ……”
Methinks this thread should be removed from this forum as it’s not the type of information we like to discuss on the Cow. If you have a professional question on how to operate Final Cut Pro, then we’re here to help. If you want to engage in illegal activities like ripping copyright DVD’s and encouraging others to do so, then there are thousands of other sites out there for you.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Better not tell people where to buy VCRs in case they tape something off the telly then? And let’s crack down on photocopiers while we’re on. Practically all digital technology has infringing and non-infringing uses. It’s up to the individual user to decide whether what they intend to do with the software is naughty or not.
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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[Graeme Nattress] “Better not tell people where to buy VCRs in case they tape something off the telly then? And let’s crack down on photocopiers while we’re on. Practically all digital technology has infringing and non-infringing uses. It’s up to the individual user to decide whether what they intend to do with the software is naughty or not.”
We don’t control what people do, but we can control the content on this website. Telling someone where to purchase a VCR is quite a bit different than telling someone how to get around the ecryption on a DVD. If you don’t like the laws then you can certainly contact your local and federal governments and petition for change.
As someone who works in production of broadcast television and who sees firsthand the amount of money that goes into making said productions, I will always move against people who encourage getting around copyright protection. I would think as someone who is developing new technology for the film and television production industry you would have a vested interest in ensuring that these same people who purchase your equipment would have their copyrighted materials fully protected. After all, if enough people rip off their work, they won’t be around to purchase any gear.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Hello Graeme,
If I buy a VCR and copy something off the telly, I have not broken any laws.
BUT…
If I do what this guy is implying — EVEN IF IT IS ONLY TO BACK-UP MY LEGALLY PURCHASED TITLES — then I have broken the Digital Millennium Act. While I do not agree with the law, it is the law. The film companies worked to take away people’s rights and the Congress played along.
It is not the law in Canada where you live, nor is it the law in much else of the world. But the Digital Millennium Act is the law in the United States and here, you cannot back-up and make copies of the discs.
Even in fair use situations, you cannot make copies and must use means like taping a playback through a camera. You cannot *directly* rip or grab a clip even in a legitimate fair use setting — you must tape through a camera — or you have broken the Digital Millennium Act.
It is a ridiculous law but it is the law.
Welcome to Amerika all my fellow Yanks,
Ron Lindeboom
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I’m actually very concerned about copyright infingement as a writer, inventor and software developer. However, I’m also a user of content, and I detest the way that, for instance, DVDs have been locked to prevent legitmate usage in another country. After all, pirates don’t have these problems, and people who buy pirate discs don’t have these problems, but legit users who pay real money for them do. Legit payed up users can’t copy a DVD to their iPod, but people who have a pirate DVD have no bother doing this at all. Software for ripping DVDs can indeed be used for making pirate copies, but by far and a way the vast use for them is for shifting media to portable formats from legitmately purchased discs, just like how iTunes makes it very easy to put your legitimately purchased CDs onto your iPod. The HD-DVD software mentioned above was created because a legitimately purchased disc could be watched in HD on an HD monitor, because the monitor used was a slightly older one that won’t “handshake” with the computer and through all that obnoxious DRM.
I have no objection to your stance on software or hardware that could potentially be used to copy media, but I personally feel that, you should extend that objection to all such devices and software, even the faceously silly ones.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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That’s a superb summary Ron. Although, even in your example I’d say using a camera would be a illegal device that is being used to circumvent copy protection. Ludicrous, I know. Recently, there’s been some improvements in DMCA issues where some more exceptions have been granted, so there is a bit of hope for the future. What a daft world we live in 🙂
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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The law was amended late last year by directives of the US copyright office that allow access to digital media, including DRMed media, for fair use within the terms of copyright law and the Berne Convention.
All the best,
Tom
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy” DVDs
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